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The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

CNLP 699 | Zach Zehnder on What's Wrong in Current Discipleship, Planting a Church In a Mainline Denomination, and How to Know When It's Time to Leave

The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

Carey Nieuwhof

Management, Business

4.82.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 December 2024

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

What's wrong with the current approach to discipleship? Lutheran pastor and author Zach Zehnder talks about what's wrong with the current approach to discipleship and what it's like to plant a church in a mainline denomination.

Plus, Carey and Zach discuss the challenges of being an entrepreneurial pastor and how these innovative church leaders know when it's time to leave their clergy positions.

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0:00.0

The Art of Leadership Network.

0:02.9

There is no differentiating factors between people that believe in Jesus and people that don't.

0:08.3

And that's super sad for me.

0:10.5

And so collectively, like we've just settled for, like I said, this broken down shadow at best representation.

0:16.1

That's super confusing.

0:17.7

Why would anyone want to follow Christ?

0:20.5

And what's the good news when our lives look

0:22.8

no different than anybody else? Welcome to the Kerry Newhoff Leadership Podcast. It's

0:31.1

Carrie here, and I hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership.

0:35.4

Well, we are on the final moments of another year. And I am very

0:42.2

excited for everything that's ahead. Hey, thank you so much for joining us today. I want to welcome

0:46.5

all of you who are new. Maybe you're checking out this podcast for the first time over what I hope

0:51.3

is a really great break for you. And we got a lot coming to you. Today I sit down

0:56.4

with Zach Zender. We talk about what's wrong in current discipleship. Planting a church in a

1:02.3

mainline denomination doesn't happen as much as it does in nondonoms and how to know when it's

1:08.1

time to leave. Today's episode is brought to you by my newsletter, On the Rise.

1:12.1

If you want to be the first to get 2025's Church Trends,

1:15.5

be sure to join my email list because on January 2nd,

1:18.7

I will be releasing all five trends along with a leader guide.

1:22.2

And throughout January, there'll be more Church Trends content,

1:25.6

podcast episodes, and resources to come.

1:28.3

Place to get it all easily is on the rise newsletter.com or click the link in the description

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