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Well, we didn't just go broke.

I was broken by it because I had an inordinate amount of confidence.

I think they call it arrogance.

And I have always been able to make money.

And they don't understand what's going on. And they didn't,

really. But that didn't matter. I still set myself up as the borrower slave to the lender.

And I still set up a house of cards.

Welcome to the Kerry Newhoff Leadership podcast. It's Carrie here, and thank you so much for joining us today.

Dave Ramsey is in the house, and we're going to talk about what makes a leader tick.

I mean, he's done this for three decades plus.

And one of the things I'm always interested in, particularly at this stage, is like, what makes leaders like that get up in

the morning? It's not money, because Dave's got lots of it now. But we actually get to the nub of it.

And he talks about how going broke in his 20s, broke him as a person, as a leader, why it still

motivates him today. His top business lessons, you'll want to get your notepad ready because there's a lot here

and why people who think they're micromanagers might not be. We're going to talk about that and

a whole lot more. Hey, welcome to those of you who are new to the podcast. I love having you here.

It is a privilege and it's free to you, but I also know you pay with your time. So I like to bring you the conversation that a lot of other people maybe don't bring you or can't bring you.

Ask questions that are different as though you were sitting down with Dave yourself having a conversation.

So wherever you're listening to this, welcome, whether that's at the gym, at home, on the road. We are so glad you're here. If you haven't

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