CNLP 708 | John Ortberg on What the Church Can Learn From Alcoholics, The Spiritual Power of Personal Inadequacy, and Why the Church Keeps Producing Elder Brothers
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Carey Nieuwhof
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🗓️ 6 February 2025
⏱️ 86 minutes
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John Ortberg discusses the spiritual power of admitting your personal inadequacy, what the church can learn from alcoholics, and why the church keeps producing elder brothers.
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| 0:00.0 | Often people will wonder, how come the church can't be more like AA? |
| 0:08.1 | And, you know, a hundred pastors have preached or talked about that. |
| 0:12.8 | There's a whole book that just has the title, Why Can't the Church be more like an AA meeting? |
| 0:18.4 | And we often ask that question rhetorically. |
| 0:21.1 | I actually don't think it's a rhetorical question at all. |
| 0:24.0 | It's a really important question. |
| 0:26.1 | And I think there is an answer to it. |
| 0:28.1 | And the answer is the church can be more like an AA meeting if those of us who go to church |
| 0:34.0 | are willing to be more like alcoholics. |
| 0:40.9 | Welcome. go to church are willing to be more like alcoholics. Welcome to the Kerry Newhoff Leadership Podcast. |
| 0:43.7 | It's Carrie here, and I hope our conversation today helps you thrive in life and |
| 0:48.4 | leadership. |
| 0:49.0 | Well, I don't know how it can't because John Orkberg is back in the house today. |
| 0:53.7 | I love John. We've known each other for a few |
| 0:55.7 | years. And I got to tell you, today we talk about the spiritual power of personal inadequacy. |
| 1:02.8 | I know for a lot of leaders, a big difference between hanging in there in the long term and just |
| 1:09.1 | saying, you know what, I can't do this anymore, |
| 1:11.4 | is a sense of inadequacy. And often, even people with a lot of bravado on the platform, |
| 1:16.9 | when you really get them one-on-one, are kind of like, yeah, I don't really know, right? And, |
| 1:22.1 | I mean, I've struggled with confidence over the years. And so we're going to talk about that, |
| 1:26.6 | the spiritual power of personal inadequacy, |
| 1:29.3 | what the church can learn from alcoholics, and why the church keeps producing elder brothers. |
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