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The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

CNLP 713 | The Decline of the New Atheism: Justin Brierley on The Openness of Thinkers Like Jordan Peterson and How to Have Conversations With Spiritually Open People

The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

Carey Nieuwhof

Management, Business

4.82.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Surprise. The New Atheism of people like Dawkins, Hitchins, and Sam Harris has lost favor over the last few years.

Podcaster and author Justin Brierley discusses why New Atheism isn't resonating anymore, the openness of thinkers like Jordan Peterson, and how to have conversations with spiritually open people. 

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0:00.0

The Art of Leadership Network.

0:03.0

I don't think what people need necessarily is just more content,

0:06.1

and that's sometimes the danger of the church

0:07.8

is just sort of delivering them yet another video or podcast or whatever.

0:12.3

I suppose what the church needs to do is to remind people of the depth that's there.

0:18.0

What we're really overwhelmed with now is a lot of shallow media.

0:25.7

Welcome to the Keri Newhoff Leadership Podcast. Hey, I'm so glad you joined us today, and I hope

0:30.3

our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership. Well, we're going to talk about

0:35.2

hope today, okay? Do you know atheism is kind of on the decline?

0:39.6

Maybe not overall, but like that new atheism that came about 10, 15 years ago, 20 years ago,

0:45.3

it's on the decline. And there's an openness of thinkers like Jordan Peterson out there and even

0:52.3

Joe Rogan and how to have conversations with spiritually open people.

0:56.4

We're going to cover all of that today with a premier apologist. His name is Justin Breyerle.

1:01.9

You may have heard of him. He does a lot of work out of the UK. If not, I think you're really

1:05.8

going to enjoy this conversation. Hey, wherever you happen to be listening, thank you so much for listening. Do you know

1:11.3

the vast majority of people who listen to this podcast haven't yet subscribed? I would love to see

1:16.3

change that. We bring you the best conversations we possibly can. If you were to have lunch with

1:21.6

or dinner with, you know, Jim Collins or Craig Griselle or Annie F Downs or somebody like that. That's the conversation we want to

1:29.1

bring you. Same today with Justin Briarley. So subscribe wherever you're listening. And if you enjoy this

1:34.2

podcast, please share it with friends. It means a lot to me. And Justin Briarly is going to, I think,

1:40.6

really help you make some progress today as a leader. He is a UK broadcaster,

1:45.6

a speaker, a writer. He is known for hosting faith conversations on popular podcasts such as

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