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Hello, creatives. I'm Joanna Penn. And this is episode number 757 of the podcast, and it is Monday

the 17th of June, 2024, as I record this. In today's Inbetween Eastode, I'm talking to

Rochelle Ayala about collaborative writing with AI. Rochelle has a PhD in applied maths and previously

worked in neural networks, so she understands the fundamentals of how generative AI works,

and she's great at explaining it to normal people. She's also been a prolific romance writer

for years and now uses AI tools at different parts of her creative process, adapting to new

options as they emerge. We talk about the misunderstandings around

generative AI, how Rochelle uses AI as a discovery writer, how you can quite easily spot a story

written by Chat GPT without the human element, how you can use the tools for story ideas

and scene beats, how different models are good at different

things, why you need to give the AI tools a lot to work with and actively drive the creative

process, completion prompting, the importance of AI for accessibility and how it helps people

with disabilities, illness and also English as a second

language, how we need to adjust our value in terms of word generation, aspects of copyright,

ethical prompting, and so much more. We talk about a lot in this episode. So today's show is

sponsored by my wonderful community at patreon.com forward slash

the creative pen, where you can find tutorials on various AI tools, including Claude,

chat GPT and Mid Journey, and discover how I use generative AI ethically as part of my creative

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