That's the way

Uh-huh, I hurt Joe Lysid.

Because there was also, if Joe Lyset, then you should have put a ring on it.

Some lice it heart.

Do you really lice it?

Is it wicked?

I think I've done that one.

I forget which ones are ideas and which ones we've actually turned into tours. You're listening to Doing It Right with me Pandora Sykes, a podcast where I talk to experts about the myths, anxieties, trivialities and trends of modern life.

There's no such thing as the right life. But what might we be getting wrong?

In this series, I'll be exploring outrage culture,

arrival fallacy, and the perils of instant gratification,

and lobbing some pretty big questions at my guests,

like, why do human beings find change so hard?

What would a more inclusive society look like?

And what is the difference between optimism and hope?

This is a podcast that looks at the little things and the big things and asks, what can

we do to live life better?

Not just for ourselves, but for everyone.

My very first guest is Joe Lysett, a comedian and TV presenter who has appeared on Nevermind

the Buzzcocks, 8 out of 10 cats, and live at the Apollo. I talked to Joe at the beginning

of June when he might have been isolating in Birmingham but was all over

our lockdown telly presenting the great british sewing bee his own show joe liceet's got your back

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