This is Leatep work a peat.

It's a podcast about making work better.

Apoge's there's been no episodes of the last couple of weeks.

It's, it's my partner

started a new job and so I've been on full-time child care. So apart from a couple of

five a.m. starts where I've been trying to make progress writing a book.

It's been, there's been very little time to get things done.

Anyway, good to be with you today.

Like I always say, if you're interested in workplace culture

and fixing work, then the newsletter and you can

get that at eat sleepwork repeat.com and that has all of the latest discussions, people musing

about what's going to happen with remote work and links to the best

articles I've seen that week so I'd love you to join that. Today's episode is a

discussion about the importance of disagreement and I think this is incredibly timely.

A lot of us have sort of gone through different stages of lockdown and was trying to work out

whether meetings have been better or worse, how we can have more creativity and a better quality of discourse while we've been working remote.

And one of the things that you might have noticed is that a lot of people

feel that remote meetings have become quite consensual or quite focused on agreement and especially because today's guest Ian Leslie

talks about how modern work tends to value people getting on with each other.

You know we're asked to judge each other based on how agreeable we are.

And so as a consequence, it means to some extent we do eliminate some forms of disagreement.

Ian Leslie's belief is very strongly that disagreement is both healthy and essential.

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