This is the whole point of a podcast about making work better and work culture is the idea that

maybe by making the experience of work better for people they do better work and so it becomes

a guess a competitive advantage. It's the idea that the world works best when it becomes a guess a competitive advantage.

It's the idea that the world works best when it's a happy place.

If you ever listen to the episode with Jeffrey Feffer,

we had a discussion on this because optimism and faith in human nature is one of the consistent mistakes that kind-hearted

people make.

We sort of presume the world is fair that it returns to an equilibrium of balance of fairness. And the gist of that discussion was that the world is in fact savage,

and unless we arm ourselves for it, we're going to be run over by a truck.

On the subject of that, today's episode is about Uber.

So it's based on a brilliant book that stacks of people have found themselves devouring in one sitting over the last couple of weeks.

It's a book called SuperPumped by Mike Isaac.

In many ways it's the story of Travis Kalanek, the CEO of Uber.

We're familiar with this guy and you may well have even heard Mike talking about the book

over the last few weeks. This chat will be different

because we're just going to focus on the culture of Uber and the question for me

was, would Uber have been as successful if their culture wasn't so psychopathic?

And secondly, could someone else adapt to Uber's culture just a little bit

to be slightly less blatant in their evilness?

And so reap the benefits of some of the things that they were good at but get away from some of the toxicity.

Along the way me and Mike also discuss W. Work and there's probably never been a corporate loss of value like we work.

A month ago they were heading towards a 50 billion dollar IPO.

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