Hello and welcome to the Bullard podcast.

I'm your host Tim Miller.

Delighted to welcome to the pod, David Graham.

He's the new lead author of the Atlantic Daily newsletter.

He's got a book out in April, The Project,

How Project 2025 is Reshaping America. What's up, man? How's it going? Well,

welcome to the unofficial podcast of the Atlantic magazine. I just wanted to make sure to include

our flagship newsletter writer. I'm still waiting for Jeff Goldberg to start, you know,

giving me a little vague on the subscriptions that come in

with all the Atlantic guests, but I haven't quite cut the deal yet. I mean, I need Donald Trump

to do some deal making for me. That's right. Well, I wanted to start here. I want to do obviously

a lot of Project 2025 stuff and there's been a lot of Ukraine news. But I want to start with this, kind of just get your take on it. People keep demanding this Rogan of the left.

And so I've decided that I'm going to try to fill the role from time to time when it comes to

conspiracy mongering. Great. If you're going to have a Rogan on the left, you got to be comfortable

with a little bit, you know, kind of dabbling in some conspiracies. And here's one I've been noodling on. Do you think it's possible that Marco Rubio is a Cuban communist agent who's been kind of playing

the long game? And they placed him here and dressed him up as a neocon, just waiting for the right

moment where, you know, they could take this patriotic

ex-plant and turn them in to an asset that gives Russia everything they ever wanted.

Well, you know, we had that situation a few years ago where there was a foreign service agent

who was a long-running Cuban sleeper cell, so we know this is the sort of thing they do.

I think you can get this going.

Yuri Besmanoff, the Russian KGB guy, said that, you know, their goals was to change people's

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