Bigger pockets filled a massive demand.

You know, at the time there was only education through these big events

that were throwing these workshops and little things.

And you know, long story short, I think no business is immune to having to pivot.

Bigger pockets include.

So the other thing that was interesting about that podcast

is I'm giving financial advice to the listener

based on my own experience of like,

if I didn't have this money saved, I'd be cooked.

And so it was a stressful position to be in, I would say, when you have this much influence

over people and you're giving financial advice, but that's what's in my heart, man.

I don't want to tell people to go scale super big and quit their job

when I'm seeing that that would have caused destruction for me.

Recently you left BP I think we should probably just start with that and get it out of

the way yes so the band-aid So you ripped the band aid off. How's life?

Different. Start in my own podcast learning all about producing shows trying to find

video editors, launched it super quick.

Like I didn't know that they were going to be making the drop of the news basically

that I wasn't going to be the podcast.

So as they had talked to me and said, hey, this is what's going to happen,

but they didn't tell me when yeah so I found out and we

basically had to get a podcast out in like a couple days yeah because people are like

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