What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Most of you know me as Pomp. You're listening

Off the Chain, simply the best podcast in crypto. Let's kick this thing off. David Wachsman is the

founder and CEO of Waxman, a professional services firm focused on blockchain based in New York

City. In this conversation, David and I

discuss how startups can get the press's attention, what are the most common marketing mistakes

made by young companies, how Wachsman has seen crypto companies evolve over the bull and bear markets,

and where the big opportunities in professional services are moving forward. I really enjoyed

this conversation, and I hope you do

as well. Anthony Pompliano is a partner at Morgan Creek Digital. All opinions expressed by Pomp

or his guests on this podcast are solely their opinions and do not reflect the opinions of

Morgan Creek Digital or Morgan Creek Capital Management. You should not treat any opinion

expressed by Pomp as a specific

inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy, but only as an

expression of his opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only.

All right, guys, bang, bang. I've got David here. We have a whole bunch to go over.

You are, I think your last name is well known in crypto, but you are behind the scenes quite a bit.

So we're going to get you tell us all your secrets.

Thank you for doing this.

Sounds like fun.

All right.

So you had a life before crypto.

Let's talk about that in your background and then we can talk about how you've built Waxman into the giant it is today. Yeah, so way before Waxman existed, all I was was a PR agent here in New York City. Okay. And that means I was like every other PR person here with essentially no specialization. We worked on, I worked on real estate development

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