What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Most of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to Off the Chain, simply the best podcasting crypto. Let's kick this thing off.

Jay On is a co-founder of Trust Token. In this conversation, we discuss brain implant technology, automation of knowledge and value, how

Trust token built their crypto infrastructure, and the founding story of True USD.

I really enjoyed this conversation, and Jay has tons of great insights. I hope you enjoy

it nearly as much as I did. Anthony Pompliano is a partner in Morgan Creek Digital.

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particular strategy, but only as an expression of his opinion. This podcast is for informational

purposes only. All right, guys, bang, bang. I am here with Jay from Just Token. We've got a

ton of stuff to go over, but I really appreciate you taking some time to come on and talk to us about what you're building.

Yeah. Thanks so much for having me, Jay.

So let's do this. Why don't we start with your personal background? You've got kind of cool story.

So maybe just share that with us, and then we'll get into the crypto stuff. Sounds good. So I grew up in Texas, spent a little time in Korea growing up,

and then moved back to Texas. After I graduated from university, I went to work as a product

manager and then did some data science work. And after that, I met my co-founder, Raphael.

He studied computer science at Stanford.

And after he graduated, we met each other at a vent, found out that we were both sleeping in cars

and had similar life philosophies.

We basically felt like we were fundamentally okay that we had won the ovarian lottery and that we,

you know, we could get a job and the rest of our lives, it wouldn't be too difficult just by

the factor of being born in a lucky spot. And so we thought about what we wanted to do, took

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