Hello, hello everybody. We have got a fun episode for today. It's the first time we've ever had four people on. So if there's any like breaks in the editing, that was me trying to handle four audio waves. But I'm really excited for you guys to listen to this. We have on the pop apologist girls, Lauren and Chandler. And then we also have Cam, who you guys all know in love already from what I will say, and the four of us got

together to talk about the Justin Baldoni and Blake lively. It ends with us lawsuit and libel and

defamation, you know, everything that's been going on with this. Because what's interesting is

Cam and I were kind of looking at it from a different perspective than pop apologists.

So we get a little, you know, low-key spicy, but I just want to say up front, spicy is not animosity.

I think that the pop apologist girls are insightful and well-researched and really dynamic together.

I love listening to their episodes.

And I also think it's kind of fun because in today's digital age of algorithms being

perfectly tailored to what you want to hear and what you think, it gives that vibe of the meme or it's

like two bitches on a podcast going back and forth saying exactly. So I think it's a great practice

talking to people who are looking at things in a different light than you are and trying to have a

conversation about that. So this is what we chat about for the next hour or so. And then also I wanted to include

a note up here from Cam that some of the points she mentions in this episode are from a creator

called ex-patriarch on TikTok, E-X-Patriarch on TikTok, if you want to go check that out. So without further ado,

here we go. Hello, hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of Fluently Ford. We have

a double feature today. We've got Cam from what I will say and the lovely pop apologist

sisters on for the show. Well, we're going to be diving into specifically kind of like Justin Baldoni

versus Blake lively and everything going on with it because you guys have done, I think,

like an eight-part series, right, at this point, or maybe to be continued because it feels like

things keep coming out. Is it eight parts? It might be 12. I don't know. Okay. I think I've lost track. Is it, are we in

double digits? But before we get into all of that, I know that you guys are big Swifties. Cam and I are as

well, Cam's entire podcast, what I will say kind of started with the Taylor Swift focus. And the first

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