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Kelly Corrigan Wonders

Deep Dive with Kate Bowler and Arthur C. Brooks on Emotions

Kelly Corrigan Wonders

Kelly Corrigan Show

Society & Culture

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Bestselling author and recovering stage 4 cancer patient Kate Bowler (Duke Divinity professor and host of Everything Happens podcast) asks as many questions as she answers. Where did we get our ideas about what’s fair, what can be manifested, what we’re owed? When it comes to cultural messages of self help, what’s true and what’s a bunch of profitable nonsense? After Kelly sat down with Kate on the set of her PBS show Tell Me More, she met up with bestselling author Arthur C. Brooks, a happiness researcher who writes for The Atlantic and teaches at Harvard. (Previously aired) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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to have the courage to be close to something that's going to break your heart.

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I think it's hard to love people all the way.

0:59.9

It's easier to let go right before.

1:10.2

Welcome to Kelly Corrigan Wonders. I'm Kelly Corrigan, and today I'm wondering about positivity,

1:13.9

prayer, prosperity, and what, if anything, they have to do with happiness. My conversation partner

1:20.0

is my friend Kate, who has stage four cancer. She is also the best-selling author, Kate Bowler,

1:26.3

of Duke Divinity School.

1:28.1

After she and I finish, I'll sit down with Arthur C. Brooks to see how Kate's experiences and intuitions square with the latest social science on happiness.

1:38.5

We'll be right back with Kelly Corrigan Wonders.

1:45.9

It's not easy to talk about death.

1:49.0

It may be even harder to talk about dying, or maybe dying, or being told you're dying.

1:55.1

But pandemic or not, these kinds of conversations are a requirement for the living.

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