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Inside the Hive

Did the Lingerie Business Make Jeffrey Epstein Possible?

Inside the Hive

Vanity Fair

News

4.2 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

As the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell starts up this week, Inside the Hive cohost Joe Hagan talks to Vanity Fair correspondents Vanessa Grigoriadis and Gabriel Sherman about their reporting on the Jeffrey Epstein scandal—what we know, what we don’t know, and what the whole sordid affair tells us about power and sexism in America. Grigoriadis’s latest podcast series, Fallen Angel: The Victoria’s Secret Story, details the fascinating history of the lingerie chain and the cultural damage it did to a generation of women, including its own models. Sherman, a featured voice, explains how Ohio-based owner Les Wexner came under Epstein’s spell and helped finance his predatory designs on women and girls. The ironies are rich: “This man who was so connected to Jeffrey Epstein is also the man who was making that lingerie that young girls were coveting,” observes Grigioriadis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is your co-host, Joe Hagen.

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Emily Jane Fox is not with us today, but she'll be with us next week.

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You know, this show is called Inside the Hive.

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correspondents who are pretty much to the most buzzworthy journalists working in America

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Welcome today to Inside the Hive, Vanessa Gregoriotis and Gabe Sherman.

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Hello.

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Hi, Joe.

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