Welcome back to Significant Others.

I'm Liza Powell O'Brien.

In yesterday's episode, we learned about the incredible life of Kestraba Gandhi, who

was so beautifully voiced by my friend, Deepika Guha.

Today, Deepika joins us again to talk about Kestraba from the perspective of someone who

grew up in an Indian family.

Deepika, thank you for joining us today.

I have such a rigidly Western perspective when it comes to Gandhi, and I'm wondering,

what was the myth of Gandhi in your family, if there even was one?

Well, yes, I found myself, so Liza, thank you for this, thank you for the opportunity

to go back to this story.

It's been a while since I've even thought about Gandhi.

I grew up in a secular India in the 90s, and so I found it massively emotional yesterday,

and this last week, and as I was looking over the story again and seeing your point of view,

not just on who he was as a national, international figure, but who he was as a husband in what

this relationship really was between teenagers.

Not even fairly, I know.

I think it was very simplified when I was growing up, sort of father of the nation, freedom,

like he, you know, the salt march and non-violence, and you know, we certainly didn't know about

all of this stuff about his sex life, and probably, you know, those chapters, I think, are

only recently coming out, and well, and also it was, I mean, it's so difficult to evaluate

from the perspective of, you know, a modern, Western understanding of relationships, because

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