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Significant Others

Significant Others

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Overview

Did you know that the novel "Lolita" would not exist if Vladimir Nabokov’s wife hadn’t stopped her husband from burning the manuscript? Or that Gandhi learned his legendary method of passive resistance from his wife? Or that the person responsible for Maya Angelou’s genre-defining memoir was her good friend James Baldwin? Significant Others is a narrated, nonfiction podcast about folks just beyond the spotlight of history. Each episode tells the story of a talented, difficult and little-known individual who altered the destiny of their better-known partner, child, sibling, or friend, and impacted the world they left behind. Narrated and written by Liza Powel O’Brien and featuring the voices of Megan Mullally, Nick Offerman, Jameela Jamil, Rita Wilson, Timothy Olyphant, Lisa Kudrow and many more.

50 Episodes

Ted Danson & Woody Harrelson Are Reunited!

Ted and Woody are back together to bring you a brand new podcast from Team Coco! It’s called “Where Everybody Knows Your Name with Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson (Sometimes)" and it’s out right now! They’re talking to guests like Conan O’Brien, Will Arnett, Jane Fonda, Billy Eichner, Kristen Bell, and so many more. Head over to “Where Everybody Knows Your Name with Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson (Sometimes)" to subscribe and listen now!

Transcribed - Published: 12 June 2024

Daron Acemoglu on Marxism and AI

Are we, in fact, living in a time of revolution? What it means and what you can do about it, according to one of MIT’s greatest thinkers.

Transcribed - Published: 4 April 2024

The Marxes

A man who looms as large as Karl Marx needed multiple Significant Others (although when it came to wives, he only had one). Starring Ted Danson as Karl Marx, Maddie Ogden as Jenny von Westphalen, and Patton Oswalt as Friedrich Engels. Also featuring Katie Sharer and Matt O’Brien.

Transcribed - Published: 3 April 2024

Claire Dederer on Reckoning with Problematic Artists

What is a fan to do with unsavory intel on their idol? Is it possible to separate the art from the artist? Should we even try?

Transcribed - Published: 28 March 2024

Gala DalĂ­

Lover and muse to multiple artists, Gala notoriously spit on people she didn’t like—or worse. Her marriage to the renowned artist Salvador Dalí was as surreal as his paintings, which he signed with both of their names even though she never held a brush. Starring Laura Ramoso as Gala Dalí and José Arroyo as Salvador Dalí Also featuring Stephen K. Amos, Nigel Daly, Neve O’Brien, and Tavis Doucette

Transcribed - Published: 27 March 2024

Sandra Newman on her Retelling of 1984

Sandra Newman was given one assignment by the Orwell Estate: Re-write 1984 from the point of view of the character Julia.

Transcribed - Published: 21 March 2024

Eileen Blair

George Orwell has never been accused of being a feminist. And yet his wife Eileen left her mark on his most important works. Starring Sally Drexler as Eileen Blair and Nigel Daly as George Orwell Also featuring: Ben Partridge, Luke Millington-Drake, Thom Wickes, Amelia Chappelow, and Colin Anderson.

Transcribed - Published: 20 March 2024

Fernando Arroyo on Musical Collaboration

The one who does the work is not always the one who gets the glory. Also… what is an orchestrator, anyway?

Transcribed - Published: 14 March 2024

Billy Strayhorn

Did Duke Ellington really used to say: “He does all the work and I take all the bows?” One thing’s for sure—neither man would have had the career he did without the other. Starring Fat Tony as Billy Strayhorn and Open Mike Eagle as Duke Ellington Also featuring: Sasheer Zamata, Sam Sanders, JaRon Ferguson, Miles Gross, Chris Hayes, and Tavis Doucette *This episode contains strong language.

Transcribed - Published: 13 March 2024

Stephen West on Philosophy

Creator and host of the podcast Philosophize This!, Stephen West, on how long-dead philosophers can still offer guidance in a modern world.

Transcribed - Published: 7 March 2024

Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche

Friedrich Nietzsche spent the final years of his life incapacitated by illness while his sister bent his works to her use as a social-climbing fascist. Starring Laura Ramoso as Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche and Flula Borg as Friedrich Nietzsche. Also featuring Matt Gourley, Jessica Chaffin, and Anja Albertson.

Transcribed - Published: 6 March 2024

Hilary Liftin on the Art of Ghostwriting

Amelia Earhart’s husband George Putnam didn’t invent ghostwriting, but he relied on it heavily to produce his best-sellers. What kind of job is ghostwriting today?

Transcribed - Published: 29 February 2024

George Palmer Putnam

The man who made Amelia Earhart famous may also have gotten her killed. But their marriage was completely on her terms. Starring John C. McGinley as George Palmer Putnam and Christa Miller as Amelia Earhart. Also featuring Conan O’Brien, Neve O’Brien, Tavis Doucette, Maddie Ogden, and Miles Grose.

Transcribed - Published: 28 February 2024

Eric Marcus on Bayard Rustin’s Legacy

Founder and host of the podcast Making Gay History, Eric Marcus, on Rustin’s heir and the stewardship of his legacy.

Transcribed - Published: 22 February 2024

Bayard Rustin

The architect of the March on Washington and co-author of Dr. King’s memoir was a mentor to the great civil rights martyr. But he was nearly hidden from history—largely by choice. Starring: J. Holtham as Bayard Rustin and Anthony Obi as Martin Luther King, Jr. Also featuring: Miles Grose, Matt Gourley, and Jesse Thorn.

Transcribed - Published: 21 February 2024

Sarah Vowell on Peggy Shippen & Revolutionary America

Author Sarah Vowell on the particular struggles women faced in revolutionary America and how Peggy Shippen’s environment influenced her decisions.

Transcribed - Published: 15 February 2024

Peggy Shippen

Benedict Arnold is famous for betraying his country–but it was his wife who made the treason possible. Starring: Susan Yeagley as Peggy Shippen and Andy Richter as Benedict Arnold Also featuring: Luke Millington-Drake, Jim O’Heir, Matt Gourley, and Roman Mars.

Transcribed - Published: 14 February 2024

Significant Others Returns!

Significant Others is back for season 2! Starting February 14th, join Liza Powel O’Brien as she explores more stories of the little-known individuals just beyond the spotlight of history. Would Benedict Arnold have betrayed his country were it not for his wife, Peggy? Who is really to blame for Friedrich Nietzche’s connection to Nazism? Find out when Significant Others returns on February 14th with new episodes every Wednesday and follow-up episodes on Thursdays.

Transcribed - Published: 7 February 2024

Bonus Episode: Dr. Susan Flinn on the Significant Others Within Ourselves

In our final bonus episode before the new season, Liza is joined by psychoanalyst and couples therapist Dr. Susan Flinn to explore the significant others within ourselves and how they impact our relationships. They also discuss this idea of our ideal self, our ideal mate, and how these can set us up for disappointment.

Transcribed - Published: 25 January 2024

Bonus Episode: Liza Mundy on the History of Women at the CIA

In this month’s bonus episode, Liza is joined by Liza Mundy, journalist and author of the book, The Sisterhood: The Secret History of Women at the CIA, to discuss the profound influence women have had at the CIA from it’s creation in 1947 to present day in the post-9/11 world. Liza Mundy shares how women fought to become operatives, facilitated their husband’s spy careers, and tracked down Osama Bin Laden.

Transcribed - Published: 28 December 2023

Bonus Episode: Dr. Emily Wilson on the Art of Translation

In this month’s bonus episode, Liza is joined by Dr. Emily Wilson, the first woman to translate Homer’s The Odyssey into English. Liza and Dr. Wilson explore the vital but often underrecognized role of a literary translator, why she set out to translate The Odyssey and The Iliad, and the attention she pays to characters who historically have been dismissed in these works.

Transcribed - Published: 30 November 2023

Bonus Episode: Eric Roth on the Role of the Screenwriter

In this bonus episode, Liza is joined by Academy Award-winning screenwriter Eric Roth to discuss the often invisible craft of screenwriting. Eric shares his process of adapting a book to film, the relationship between screenwriter and director, and what it was like working with Martin Scorsese on Killers of the Flower Moon.

Transcribed - Published: 26 October 2023

Bonus Episode: Benjamin Binstock on Examining Vermeer

In this month’s bonus episode, Liza is joined by Benjamin Binstock, art historian and author of Vermeer’s Family Secrets: Genius, Discovery, and the Unknown Apprentice, to discuss the historical examination of Vermeer’s works and the possibility that perhaps there was another hand at play.

Transcribed - Published: 28 September 2023

Bonus Episode: Laurie Sandell on Ruth Madoff

In this month’s bonus episode, Liza is joined by Laurie Sandell, author of Truth and Consequences: Life Inside the Madoff Family, to discuss Ruth Madoff and her role in the Madoff scandal. Laurie and Liza dive into who Ruth Madoff was as a person, her relationship with Bernie, and if she has any regrets.

Transcribed - Published: 24 August 2023

Bonus Episode: Dr. Mali Heled Kinberg on James Joyce and Nora Barnacle

On this month’s bonus episode, Liza is joined by Dr. Mali Heled Kinberg, UCLA faculty lecturer and holder of a doctorate in English Literature from Cambridge University, to discuss the fascinating and unique relationship between literary giant James Joyce and his partner, Nora Barnacle. Liza and Mali explore Nora’s profound influence on her husband and the scandalous letters the two exchanged throughout their relationship.

Transcribed - Published: 27 July 2023

Bonus Episode: Marc Grossman on Helen and Cesar Chavez

In this month’s bonus episode, Liza is joined by Marc Grossman who was speechwriter, press secretary, and personal aide to Cesar Chavez for 24 years. Marc shares his unique insight into the marriage of Cesar and Helen Chavez, and how Helen was a powerful force in her own right and became the mother of the United Farm Workers’ movement

Transcribed - Published: 29 June 2023

Bonus Episode: Anna Malaika Tubbs on Significant Mothers

In this month’s bonus episode, we celebrate Mother’s Day! Liza is joined by bestselling author Anna Malaika Tubbs to discuss her book, The Three Mothers: How the Mothers of Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, and James Baldwin Shaped a Nation. Anna and Liza dive into the lives of these incredible mothers who have historically been ignored, and they acknowledge their roles in raising and shaping sons who forever changed the course of our nation.

Transcribed - Published: 11 May 2023

Bonus Episode: Elizabeth Winkler on if Shakespeare was a Woman

In this month’s bonus episode, Liza is joined by Elizabeth Winkler, author of the new book Shakespeare Was a Woman and Other Heresies to discuss this question of Shakespeare’s authorship. Elizabeth and Liza dive into the compelling evidence that Shakespeare could have in fact been a woman and explore why even the thought of questioning his authorship is so taboo.

Transcribed - Published: 27 April 2023

Bonus Episode: Mo Rocca on the Art of the Obituary

Significant Others is bringing you another bonus episode! This time Liza is joined by Mo Rocca, the host of the popular podcast Mobituaries, to discuss how people are remembered through their obituaries. Mo and Liza dive into memorable obituaries, what makes a powerful obit, and who maybe didn’t get their proper due.

Transcribed - Published: 30 March 2023

Bonus Episode: Heather Cox Richardson on Presidents and First Ladies

Significant Others is back with another bonus episode! Liza is joined by historian Heather Cox Richardson, host of the podcast Now & Then, and author of one of the most successful Substacks of all time, Letters From An American. Heather and Liza dive into presidential marriages and ask, who was the best love match? Which overlooked first ladies deserve some more credit? And which presidential relationships were doomed from the start?

Transcribed - Published: 28 February 2023

Jake Tapper on the Significant Relationship Between Political Parties

CNN anchor Jake Tapper joins Liza in another special bonus episode to discuss how a 2-party system can look a little bit like a long-term marriage… that neither partner actually signed up for. How has this relationship evolved over the years and in what ways do the parties rely on each other? Liza and Jake discuss all this and more.

Transcribed - Published: 12 January 2023

Bonus Episode: Dana Schwartz on Royal Partnerships

Significant Others is back with another bonus episode! Liza is joined by Dana Schwartz, host of the popular podcast Noble Blood, which explores the stories of the world’s most fascinating nobles. Today, Dana takes us on a crash course through the complicated dynamics of royal marriages and answers our burning questions! What set Catherine the Great apart? Did Anne Boleyn play her cards right? And who was the first appointed royal spouse that was male? Turns out that relationships aren't so easy when your nation depends on their success. Who knew?

Transcribed - Published: 19 December 2022

Bonus Episode: Stacy Schiff on Samuel Adams

Significant Others is back with a bonus episode! Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer Stacy Schiff returns to discuss her new book The Revolutionary: Samuel Adams, which examines the essential (and somewhat forgotten) role of Samuel Adams during the Revolutionary War. Liza and Stacy explore why he has become more known as “the beer guy” than for his contributions to the cause, and ask - was Samuel Adams the Significant Other of the American Revolution?

Transcribed - Published: 1 December 2022

Malcolm Gladwell on Dr. Spock

Best-selling author and journalist Malcolm Gladwell joins Liza to discuss the concept of “celebrity doctors” and the destructive dynamic between the famous Dr. Spock and his complicated wife Jane.

Transcribed - Published: 8 September 2022

Jane Cheney Spock

The Common Sense Book of Baby and Child Care altered parenting forever and made Dr. Benjamin Spock a household name. But his wife Jane, who not only helped him get the book down on paper but introduced him to the very concepts that were so revolutionary in his work, was ruined by his success.

Transcribed - Published: 7 September 2022

Julie Lythcott-Haims on Sir Leslie Stephen

Parenting expert Julie Lythcott-Haims sits down with Liza to explore what parents should and shouldn’t want for their children; and whether or not Sir Leslie Stephen may have gotten some things right.

Transcribed - Published: 1 September 2022

Sir Leslie Stephen

Virginia Woolf’s father, Sir Leslie Stephen, wanted nothing more than to be a genius—but he created one instead. Starring: Jameela Jamil as Virginia Woolf and Luke Millington-Drake as Sir Leslie Stephen.

Transcribed - Published: 31 August 2022

Mark Harris on Molly Day Thacher and Elia Kazan

Journalist and biographer Mark Harris joins Liza to discuss the legacy of Elia Kazan and whether or not there is such a thing as a happy ending in Hollywood.

Transcribed - Published: 25 August 2022

Molly Day Thacher

Legendary filmmaker Elia Kazan gave us such cinematic classics as On the Waterfront and A Streetcar Named Desire, but he made himself a pariah when he named names to the government. Without his wife, Molly Day Thacher, he might never have made his controversial decision–nor even had a career to begin with.

Transcribed - Published: 24 August 2022

W. Kamau Bell on James Baldwin and Maya Angelou

Author and comedian W. Kamau Bell joins Liza to discuss the legacies of Maya Angelou and James Baldwin, and the importance of affinity groups.

Transcribed - Published: 18 August 2022

James Baldwin and Maya Angelou

Without the profound connection between these two artists, would the world ever have gotten I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings? Starring: Christina Elmore as Maya Angelou and Larry Powell as James Baldwin. Also starring Angelica Chéri as Lorraine Hansberry.

Transcribed - Published: 17 August 2022

Stacy Schiff on the Nabokovs

Biographer Stacy Schiff joins Liza to discuss the lengths she went to in researching her Pulitzer Prize-winning biography, Véra.

Transcribed - Published: 11 August 2022

Véra Nabokov

Vladimir Nabokov is best known for writing the highly controversial yet critically revered novel, Lolita. But the book might never have made it onto the shelves were it not for the other Nabokov—Vladimir's enigmatic and elusive wife, Véra. Starring: D’Arcy Carden as Véra Nabokov and Dan Bucatinsky as Vladimir Nabokov

Transcribed - Published: 10 August 2022

Conan O’Brien on the Lincolns

Liza is joined by her significant other, self-proclaimed Lincoln super-fan Conan O’Brien, to discuss how crucial Mary Lincoln was to her husband's political career.

Transcribed - Published: 4 August 2022

Mary Lincoln

Mary Lincoln is the First Lady everyone loves to hate. But without her, would Abe Lincoln even have been president in the first place?

Transcribed - Published: 3 August 2022

Dipika Guha on the Gandhis

Playwright Dipika Guha joins Liza to give insight into the complicated relationship between her home country of India and Gandhi's legacy in this time of call-out culture.

Transcribed - Published: 28 July 2022

Kasturba Gandhi

Mohandas Gandhi helped India win independence from Britain through nonviolent resistance but little know that he credits the inspiration for his tactics to his wife, Kasturba. So, who was the wife of this renowned saint?

Transcribed - Published: 27 July 2022

Esther Perel on The Tolstoys

World-renowned psychotherapist Esther Perel joins Liza to discuss the dynamic between Leo and Sophia Tolstoy and whether the issues Sophia faced were a product of the times she lived in.

Transcribed - Published: 21 July 2022

Countess Sophia Tolstoy

Leo Tolstoy is widely regarded as one of the greatest authors of all time. Yet, without his wife, Sophia Tolstoy, would the world have been gifted with such literary classics as War and Peace and Anna Karenina? Starring Megan Mullally as Countess Sophia Tolstoy and Nick Offerman as Leo Tolstoy.

Transcribed - Published: 20 July 2022

Introducing Significant Others from Team Coco

Did you know that the novel "Lolita" would not exist if Vladimir Nabokov’s wife hadn’t stopped her husband from burning the manuscript? Or that Gandhi learned his legendary method of passive resistance from his wife? Alongside any famous name, there is often another story to tell—of an intimate relationship that made all the difference. Starting July 20th, join Liza Powel O’Brien as she explores the stories of the little-known individuals just beyond the spotlight of history. Because no one lives in a vacuum—not even geniuses.

Transcribed - Published: 12 July 2022

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