Ditch the Gimmicks, Train Hard, and Build Real Strength

The Hard Way w/ Joe De Sena

Spartan Races

Fitness, Alternative Health, Health & Fitness, 792700

4.7 • 870 Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Joe De Sena sits down with fitness expert and Mind Pump co-founder Justin Andrews to cut through the noise and get real about strength, discipline, and building a resilient body and mind.

They dive into the biggest fitness myths, the power of hard work, and why modern parenting is failing kids when it comes to health and toughness. From training smarter and staying injury-free to raising kids who embrace challenges instead of screens, this conversation is packed with no-nonsense advice you can apply today.

If you’re tired of gimmicks and want real strategies for lasting strength, energy, and resilience, don’t miss this one!

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:51 Longtime Friendship & First Encounter

01:30 Fitness Trends & Industry Challenges

02:31 Technology vs. Physical Activity

04:26 The Battle Against Screens

06:09 The Power of Physical Work in Parenting

10:00 The Decline of Hard Work in Society

11:44 Toughening Up the Next Generation

13:49 The Blueprint for an Optimal Day

15:00 Optimal Daily Habits for Health

17:02 Training with Intention & Adapting with Age

20:25 How to find Jason?

Connect to Justin:

Website: Mind Pump Media

Instagram: @mindpumpjustin

LinkedIn: Justin Andrews

YouTube: Mind Pump TV

Twitter/X: MindPump

Transcript

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0:00.0	Me growing up sports pretty much saved me.
0:02.0	Every time you work at something, it's like you see this progress, you see yourself improving,
0:07.0	and you see the strength come, and that's what I get excited about, and I'm trying so hard to model that
0:12.0	and be able to kind of show my kids too.
0:15.0	It's like, this is where the value is.
0:16.0	You go for the hard thing, and then the payout is so much more substantial and you're not going
0:21.0	to see it right away.
0:22.1	So the delay gratification, that whole mindset, that's something that, yeah, any area I can
0:27.5	improve and grow, I'm going to go there.
0:29.8	Welcome to the Hardway podcast with Joe DeCena, founder and CEO of Spartan races.
0:35.7	We're teaching you how to overcome your obstacles in your life the same way we teach our 10
0:39.7	million plus Spartans to overcome obstacles on the course.
0:42.9	With insight from the smartest, most accomplished experts from every corner of the world.
0:47.2	Get ready to elevate your life today.
0:50.7	Joe Descente here, CEO and founder of Spartan and host of the Hardwood podcast. I've got my buddy
0:55.8	Justin Andrews from Mind Pump Media. We know each other. How long we know each other? At least 10 years, right?
1:01.5	At least 10 years. Yeah, you were one of the first couple, I think, interviews we had, and we brought you out here.
1:07.8	You drove in a minivan, you know, unassuming. And we found out later that
1:12.3	you're this big CEO. And we hit off right away. Let's be honest. We got along right away.
1:17.6	I think we called my buddy Jimmy Binns from Philly on the phone while I was in the room.
1:22.6	He was packing at the time and riding a Harley, maybe through the streets of Philly.
1:29.6	You guys are awesome.
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