Diving in the Wreckage - Independence, Decadence, and Renewal w/ C. Derick Varn

The Antifada

Sean KB and AP Andy

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4.2 • 970 Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2024

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Sean and Varn are back to talk about the various paroxysms of the American left: why are the sects getting weirder and weirder? Why do we have to pay attention to capitalist politics while realizing we have no stake in it? Why do we focus on labor and what the hell is the Independent Labor Club trying to do?

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Song: Gary Numan - This Wreckage

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0:00.0	Hello, welcome to diving into the wreckage, where we have long since giving up trying to keep up with any
0:14.2	numbering system and we are calling this episode Independence Decidence and renewal and this this episode kind of came out of a comment I made that I don't think you could
0:29.9	ignore contemporary politics when doing organizing, and you said that you did.
0:36.8	And I wanted to go into why I don't think our positions are actually that different because I when I say we can't ignore I do not think and I'm not one of these people to who thinks that
0:52.0	What the Democrats are doing from the day to day
0:55.4	radically affects anything that we need to do.
0:59.1	And we agree on that then.
1:01.2	Yeah.
1:02.2	And agree on that then. Yeah. And what we have to deal with however is that for good or
1:09.2	ill, mostly for ill. The labor movement in the United States seems to be unable to be independent.
1:20.0	Yeah.
1:21.0	Mostly tied to the Democrats through the AFLCIO, but you know teamsters doing team
1:26.2	stir shit going back to Nixon but that's still what people talk about that is
1:29.6	Labor independence and I'm like it's not quite it's not really no it doesn't it doesn't posit its own
1:35.8	institutions as independent from the state, Paris state party apparatus alongside an LRB regime, nor does it imagine that an independent
1:50.3	labor-driven politics could arise separate from those two others.
1:55.9	So it's not independent in the way that we might want it to be.
1:58.8	Right.
1:59.8	I would say it's...
2:00.8	Did you see the flack I caught from the for my left reckoning
2:06.1	appearance last week? No I did not I don't follow
2:11.7	I don't follow me anymore.
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