In the dance stores and birth stations,

in part to arc of situations,

reports, repeat quotations, draw conclusions on the wall.

Okay, I'm here with Bill Brown, who some listeners might know as still not bored.

Yes, that's correct.

With an exclamation point?

Well, the magazine and the website has an exclamation point,

but in my name there's none, no need for an exclamation point no need because you're not bored that's right

So yeah tell the listeners a little bit about yourself about not bored and about the kind of work you do today.

Okay, well, thank you for having me on the show, Andy, and hello to the audience, the listening audience.

Not Board was founded in 1983, originally because I needed a vehicle for some, an article that had written about

David Bowie that was not published by the Ann Arbor News, where I was a rock, rock journalist for a couple of years and it was done as a one-off to just to distribute this one text.

And I got the name out of something that turned out to be already situationist, which was Tom

Wolf had described certain rock musicians as looking gloriously bored, and particularly

Rolling Stones and David Bowie and others and he said he

Based on this idea that they look bored and this was an objection I thought well as a punk I thought I agree

We want musicians and we want we want to be not bored and that became the name of the journal It was only after that I was introduced to the situation is that I would discovered that there was a situationist slow and saying boredom is counter

revolutionary which had been done decades before I had found out about it and I found

there was a natural affinity I had for the situation this idea because of

this idea of refusing boredom and also it seemed to jive with a lot of a good deal of

the rhetoric of punk at that time which was saying no that the larger the no more

insistent to know the better and that yes would have to be a very very small

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