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What is a plant gall and why does it challenge our winning evolution?

I'm Casey Luskin with I.D. the future and today we have on the show with us

Dr. Wolf Ekhard Lonek, a geneticist now retired who worked for most of his career at the Max Planck

Institute for Plant Breeding Research in Germany. Dr. Loneck's name should be familiar to many Idi the future listeners, as we've had him on discussing many fascinating topics over the years.

Today we're having him on to discuss the origin of plant galls, a topic that he knows something about because of his strong background

in the biology of plants.

So thank you so much Dr Lonegg for joining us on the podcast today.

Thank you for having me, and I'm happy that you are interviewing me.

Oh, it's great to do this again. It's been a few years since we've done an interview and I've been looking forward to this.

So the first question is sort of the obvious one to get us started off.

What is a plant gall and is this the kind of thing that we might see on a regular basis

when we are observing plants?

Yes. The phenomenon of plant gawls is so widespread

that almost everyone who has been out in the wild

a few times has seen some plant go grow. However, usually without recognizing or realizing

their function and meaning in nature, not to speak of the problems they pose for Darwin and

as wellowments. One can even say that as long as human beings have existed on the earth,

they must also have perceived plant cause. Just recently a lady in her mid-40s wrote me a male and said that she has noted this

phenomenon without understanding and investigating the matter more thoroughly.

So this plant

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