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Hello, and welcome to Coffee House shots of Spectators' Daily Politics Podcast. I'm Katie

Balls and I'm joined by James Hill and Paul Goodman, esteemed journalist and conservative peer.

Now, we're going to be talking about how is Kemi Badernock doing? She has plenty of critics at the moment,

but this was the week she tried to show that she actually does have a plan and she is willing to do some policy after all.

James, to kick us off with what week Kemi takes action looked like. Yep. So this was about the announcement on Tuesday

that Kemi Badernock no longer thinks that net zero is achievable by 2050. Actually, it's now

impossible. And this policy announcement that the Conservatives

were no longer abide by the 2050 net zero agenda was really a sort of way in to tee up the fact

that they're doing a number of policy reviews, policy commissions, basically trying to use the example

of the last two Conservative leaders who entered government from opposition. Those in the last 50 years

were, of course, David Cameron and before that Margaret Thatcher, and to learn from the best of both

of those as they try and sort of build credibility and find a program that's going to get them

back into government in four years' time. And of course, the policy commissions are going to be

kicking off for the next seven months. My understanding is that there's going to be a number of announcements, sort of drumbeat, as it were, every three to four weeks up until conference and I've spoken to number of MPs. Some of them are who didn't vote for Camadneock. You know, of course, only about 35% of the Tory MPs did vote for her, are saying this is a good sign that they're actually delighted to get their teeth finally struck into stuff. You know, they want to actually talk about things and get on with their brief. Against that, of course, there are some people saying, hang on a set, did you spend the past

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