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🗓️ 4 March 2025
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0:00.0 | From the New York Times, I'm Rachel Abrams. |
0:04.0 | This is the Daily. |
0:11.0 | Today. |
0:13.3 | Since the moment President Trump took office, Elon Musk and Doge have wielded an unprecedented |
0:19.3 | level of power to help the new administration slash |
0:22.7 | the U.S. government. And so far, they've claimed to have cut tens of billions of dollars in |
0:28.1 | wasteful spending. Today, my colleague David Ferenthold explains why those claims are not |
0:35.1 | what they seem and what that tells us about Musk's project |
0:38.5 | to shrink the federal bureaucracy. |
0:44.5 | It's Tuesday, March 4th. |
0:52.2 | David, we've been hearing a lot about what Doge, the Elon Musk Group tasked with saving $2 trillion, has been up to in recent weeks. |
1:01.5 | They've done massive layoffs. |
1:03.2 | They've done job purity tests. |
1:05.4 | And they actually have made billions of dollars in cuts. |
1:08.3 | But you've been looking into exactly what they say they've done, |
1:12.0 | which is kind of like an audit, if you will, of Doge. And I'd love it if you could explain how |
1:17.6 | you went about doing that. Well, so I should start by saying that it's really hard to know most of what |
1:23.2 | Doge is doing. Doge is really opaque. It's operating in a lot of different places at once, |
1:28.1 | operating almost in total secrecy. So we've been looking for a window, any sort of window to see |
1:33.7 | the kind of analysis they're using to justify all the things they're cutting and the things |
1:37.3 | they want to cut. And a couple of weeks ago, they actually gave us one window into their work. |
1:42.5 | They set up a website. Basically, it's a kind of a primitive |
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