“Don’t talk to yourself like that!” Teddy Swims on learning self-compassion
Happy Place
Fearne Cotton
4.6 • 15.2K Ratings
🗓️ 31 March 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
We change all the time, which means self-love is an ongoing practice; we’re constantly learning to love the person we are today. Musician Teddy Swims wants you to be able to look in the mirror and see what a great person you are every day.
In this chat with Fearne, Teddy explains why he and his partner chose to go to couples therapy to help them prepare to become parents, as well as the incredible impact having an emotionally articulate father had on his ability to process his own big feelings.
Fearne and Teddy both see music, art, writing, and creativity in general as cathartic outlets for emotions, but can this sometimes tip into wallowing in the same negative thought patterns over and over again?
Plus, Fearne spotted a tattoo gun on Teddy’s dressing room table... will she let him tattoo her even though he’s “not very good yet”...?
Teddy’s album, I’ve Tried Everything But Therapy (Part 2), is out now.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, I'm Fern Cotton and this is Happy Place, the show that helps you process the rough old things you're going through. |
| 0:07.8 | Today, I'm chatting to Teddy Swims. |
| 0:10.3 | If you're in this place and you write a song about it, you release that feeling. |
| 0:13.2 | But when you start writing it in a thousand different ways, actually the tiny problem that you might have wrote a song about, |
| 0:18.9 | now I've like Festered and wrote albums on albums about this one tiny thing that now is probably the biggest thing in my life because I've just |
| 0:25.4 | put so much effort and energy and trying to formulate the right ways to say it. And I've now given |
| 0:30.2 | this problem of mine way more power than they should have had. And I was making these small |
| 0:34.7 | problems into giant problems by just like trying to put them in the |
| 0:37.5 | perfect way and overdoing it and not just like using it at a tool to release this feeling, |
| 0:42.5 | you know? |
| 0:43.0 | Right. |
| 0:43.4 | Today, Teddy, oh my God, we're going to have a lot of fun together with this chat. |
| 0:47.3 | So basically, I went to Wembley Arena where Teddy had two sold out shows. |
| 0:54.0 | Absolutely amazing. And it was just the most |
| 0:57.1 | fun afternoon. Well, it was like an early evening recording. Went to Wembley with the team. We went in |
| 1:03.0 | the backstage entrance, which was so exciting people milling about. We walked around the empty |
| 1:07.7 | arena first, which felt utterly thrilling. Then we were whisked backstage. |
| 1:12.0 | His team was so nice. Sometimes I've been backstage at a lot of gigs. Sometimes those teams can be |
| 1:17.1 | a little bit standoffish, a bit cleaky, a bit cool. His team were, I mean, a sign of things to come. |
| 1:23.8 | Just lovely. We hung out in one of the offices backstage, chatting and drinking tea and |
| 1:29.5 | having a good catch up. And then we were whisked into Teddy's dressing room. He was fresh from the |
| 1:34.0 | gym. And we got stuck into a chat, but, but, and it's a big juicy butt, just before we got |
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