Hello, hello everybody. Welcome back to another episode of fluently Ford. We have on a repeat

guest, CAM from the what I will say podcast. Welcome to the show, how you doing CAM?

I'm doing great, thrilled to be here had we just had an amazing

conversation about Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift and I don't know it's a great day I'm

gonna move to pod yeah well it is a great day. It is a, we're what, one day away from the VP presidential debates here in the US.

You and I were texting a little bit. I was, I took one bong rip yesterday

and then I decided to turn the debates on.

And the way that I was, like I was sweating,

like every muscle in my body, I was like,

I need to pay attention to this.

And I couldn't.

And I was so high that I just like kept focusing on

J.D. Vance's pink tie and how Tim Walls looked like a sad Basset hound like the

cutest but like so sad. So then I turned it off after 30 minutes. Did you watch all of it? Yeah, we watched it all in my discord for my podcast and we've just in this election season. We have banned it together to just try and survive it as it's

fucking wild out there it's scary out there and this election is way too close for

comfort but I'm fine you know a lot of people are saying like they tied which I'm surprised by I did think

Vance had a smoother slicker performance a little more practiced but what do you expect from like a

Reddit podcast freak that went to Yale Law School? Like I'm not surprised he could string some sentences together. Well, it seemed a little nervous, but he loosened up. He killed his answers on abortion on abortion think on gun rights and gun control so he had some great moments particularly the abortion he did very well and I thought yeah it is so stupid I before, like, it's kind of wild that whoever the president is has to be a good campaigner, because the skills that make you a good campaigner and a good debater are not the skills that make you good at you know working on legislation and

reaching across the aisle and ruling over the United States of America I almost

think of presidents as like startups where normally there's two guys who like start a startup and one of them is the engineer

who puts together all the code and then the other guy is the shiny one with the nice hair who like talks to all of the

VCs and stuff like that and I almost feel like that's what we need to do for president too,

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