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Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. The New Yorker's Washington

correspondents gather at the end of every week to talk about the big events in our political

life and what an incredible week it has been. I'm joined by staff writers Susan Glasser,

Jane Mayer, and Evan Osnows to discuss, well, the obvious, the return of Donald Trump to the White House and what this means for America.

We spoke Thursday evening.

So we've had a couple of days to, how do we say, process this information?

How are you making sense of this, Susan,

right now? Well, I mean, I would say, while standing on one foot. Yeah, exactly. David,

look, in a way, I, first of all, I do not admit to having processed this information. I feel like it's sitting in like a large undigested meal in our, you know,

I, and even with a fair amount of anticipatory dread on my part, my colleagues know this,

but having anticipated something is not the same thing as experiencing it and the full weight

of what it's going to mean for the country for four more

years. And I think that that's one of the most important things to me is the idea that we are not

two days into the Donald Trump era, but, you know, eight years into it. And I think that means we're looking

at a very large swath of the country, you know, the core of the Republican Party that has

been now quite fully radicalized and transformed into a very different Republican Party than it

was at the start of the Trump era. Then you combine

that with Trump's ability in this election, which I think was underappreciated, the extent to which

Trump was able to win over not just that core of the Republican Party, but independent voters,

low-frequency voters, with a pretty simple message, it seems to me, of complaint, lament, outrage, resistance, unhappiness.

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