Rachel Maddow on the Fascist Threat in America, Then and Now

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🗓️ 4 November 2024

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

The MSNBC host says that Trump’s authoritarian message is timeless. “You can sell [it] to people who are in great need of relief,” she says. “But you can also sell it to billionaires.”

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0:00.0	Listener supported, WNYC Studios.
0:10.8	This is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and the New Yorker.
0:17.7	This is the New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick.
0:22.1	The word of the day in this election is no longer vibes or joy. It's a much darker word.
0:29.2	Fascist. The retired four-star generals Mark Millie and John Kelly, who both served under Donald Trump, came out and said it. Rachel Maddo could
0:39.7	hardly be blamed if she said, I told you so. Maddo has been warning of authoritarianism at
0:45.4	home for a very long time. This is not normal American stuff. This isn't American at all.
0:53.8	This is strongman authoritarian form of government stuff,
0:57.4	which our Constitution protects us from explicitly. I mean, what Trump is proposing to do here in America
1:03.6	to the media is what Putin, of course, has already done in Russia. Maddow's podcast, Ultra,
1:10.3	and her book, Prequel, take the long view on far right movements in America. Maddow's podcast Ultra and her book prequel take the long view on far-right movements in America,
1:14.9	going back to 1939 when a pro-Nazi group called the German-American Bund held a huge rally in New York
1:22.5	City.
1:23.5	What we are actively fighting for under our charter.
1:29.3	First, a social trust white gentile ruled the United States.
1:35.2	Second, Gentile controlled labor union, free from Jewish Moscow, directed domination.
1:50.0	I sat down with Rachel Maddo on stage the other day at the New Yorker Festival.
1:59.0	Rachel, let's start with something incredibly cheerful.
2:03.5	About a mile up the road at Madison Square Garden,
2:09.7	I could tell, because on the subway down here,
2:11.7	I was surrounded by people who were not going here,
2:15.6	alas, but going to Madison Square Garden.
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