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Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday that specific time at drudud TV. Today is a different kind of interview for a lot of great reasons. One is, I don't think I've ever brought somebody on the show that knew me when I was a teenager, but Doug Cohen is such a person.

So let's start with that. We've known each other, Doug, since 1977?

Six, was it 76? 1776 yeah we were both oh yeah that's right that's right I bet your parents in 1976 when they came to drop you off and go. That's right.

Oh my God.

You were on the fourth floor.

I was on the third floor of the same dorm.

You both had similar interests.

It said you wanted to be a doctor.

That's that's maybe.

Yeah, I was unsure what the hell I was going to do, but I was I was I had been doing a lot of performing and music and stuff and

Doug is this unbelievable musician that when I bore witness to it I was like what is this well how does this happen I'm I don't you for me remember me even asking you questions like that.

Because Doug, we would literally,

there's more of a story, so bear with me here,

but we would stand around the piano singing

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