Downstream: The Israel Lobby Is Real. Here’s Exactly How It Works w/ Illan Pappé

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🗓️ 26 June 2024

⏱️ 91 minutes

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If you mention the Israel lobby in the mainstream media then, more often than not, you’ll face accusations of antisemitism. There are of course people who talk about the Israel lobby in antisemitic terms, but that doesn’t undermine the fact that it exists, and has existed for well over a century. This week’s guest is […]

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0:00.0	I've been working in the media now for more than 10 years and there are some things that if you mention them people start to get a
0:14.4	little bit hot under the collar. One of them is the existence of an Israel lobby, a
0:20.7	Zionist lobby. If you say those words, some people immediately accuse you of anti-Semitism.
0:27.0	I know because it's happened to me.
0:30.0	But there is, without doubt, beyond any dispute whatsoever an Israel Lobby.
0:36.6	It's real.
0:37.6	And what's more, it's very old.
0:41.0	And it certainly exists on both sides of the Atlantic.
0:45.0	Author Ilan Papae is without doubt one of the best historians on Israel Palestine out there
0:52.0	and in his new book, he looks at the lobby in both the UK and the US
0:58.1	over the last century and a half. It's an extraordinary book, and I think some of the details will shock you
1:04.4	Ilan Papae welcome to Downstream.
1:06.7	Thank you nice to be here. Thank you. It's great to have you on. I've been a huge fan of your work for a very long time.
1:13.2	Thank you.
1:14.2	Um hugely impressive, influential historian.
1:17.6	Today we're talking about your new book, lobbying for Zionism.
1:21.8	I just spoke a moment ago before the camera started rolling how there
1:25.1	are coffee stains on it.
1:26.5	That's fine. It's a good sign. It's a good sign. The book has been at least the cover was
1:31.4	read. Yeah, exactly.
1:32.8	And I enjoyed it immensely.
1:35.7	I mean, it's more than 500 pages.
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