Hey guys welcome to episode 107 of the OCD stories

dot com podcast.

Now in this episode I got on Dr Kevin Chapman.

I first became aware of Kevin through the guys at the OECD.

So Kevin is on the advisory board for the guys at NooCD. So Kevin is on the advisory board for the Noo C.

So if you go to the show notes or the podcast page on the site you'll find links to

the Noo C. If you haven't got it it's a great app and I

recommend you download it and try it. It's only on iOS at the minute that's

Apple but it should be out on Android hopefully this year.

And it was a pleasure to interview Kevin.

Kevin is a licensed psychologist in Kentucky.

He specialized in the treatment of anxiety disorders, obviously using

CBT and ERP for OCD.

Kevin also is the sports psychologist for Lewis Phil City Football Club, that's soccer.

And I wanted to get him on just because I think he's an interesting guy,

and from what I heard he knew a lot about treatment.

And from interviewing him, that was definitely the case.

I learned so much chatting with Kevin for the time we had together.

Some of the things we talk about is kind of why it takes roughly 17 sessions of ERP for most people to get better and why it's longer for some people.

We talk about the key characteristics he's noticed in his clients that recover the quickest.

We talk about how his views changed of treating OCD over the last 10 years and

then we answer sort of five listener questions and one importantly

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