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The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

Dr Laurie Talks Romance, Parents and Stalking on 'Love Factually'

The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

Pushkin Industries

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.714.6K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Love Factually is a new podcast looking at what "rom com" movies get right and wrong about relationships. Dr Laurie Santos joined the hosts Eli Finkel of Northwestern University and Paul Eastwick from UC Davis to talk about her favorite 80s teen movie, Say Anything.

In this episode, they discuss what Cameron Crowe's 1989 film tells us about what constitutes stalking; and the transition when romantic partners supplant our parents as our closest relationships.   

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0:00.0

Pushkin.

0:10.8

Happy Valentine's Day.

0:16.2

As promised, I have a lovely little treat for you on this most romantic of days.

0:20.5

In the last episode of the Happiness Lab, I chatted with relationship experts Eli Finkel and Paul Eastwick

0:25.7

to explore what rom-coms get right and wrong about romance.

0:29.5

But Eli and Paul have their own fabulous podcast.

0:32.2

It's called Love Factually.

0:34.0

And it just so happens that I recently joined them as a guest.

0:37.3

So here's me and Eli and Paul talking about the science of one of my favorite ever rom-coms, the movie Say Anything. I hope you enjoy our conversation. And if you do, be sure to check out Love Factually, wherever you get your podcasts.

1:01.5

Welcome. Welcome to Love Factually, the podcast that analyzes rom-coms and romantic films using the science of close relationships.

1:06.5

We're your host Paul Eastwick and Eli Finkel, welcoming in guest host of the Happiness Lab podcast, Dr. Lori Santos.

1:15.4

Thank you for joining us today.

1:17.4

Thank you so much for having me on the show.

1:19.5

So, Lori, tell us what are we talking about today?

1:23.5

So today we're talking about Say Anything, Cameron Crowe's 1989 rom-com starring

1:29.3

Hi, John Fusack and Ione Sky, which Entertainment Weekly ranked in 2002 as the number one romance movie of the past 25 years.

1:39.4

Some of the themes we'll explore are how attachment bonds transfer from a parent to a romantic partner, the benefits of optimism, and what exactly counts as stalking.

1:47.3

And fair warning, we'll be spoiling this movie today. So if you don't know how many songs

1:51.9

one woman can write about Joe and they're all about pain. Pain, then go ahead and watch

1:59.0

his movie and come back. Okay, Eli, tell us who are the key characters and couples in this movie?

2:05.0

The movie explores the love triangle involving Diane, her father, Jim, and her boyfriend Lloyd.

2:11.4

The story takes place during the summer after the young lovers graduate from high school.

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