Dr. S. Craig Watkins on Why AI’s Potential to Combat or Scale Systemic Injustice Still Comes Down to Humans

Unlocking Us with Brené Brown

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Society & Culture, Education, Relationships, Self-improvement

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🗓️ 3 April 2024

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Brené and Craig discuss what is known in the AI community as the “alignment problem” — who needs to be at the table in order to build systems that are aligned with our values as a democratic society? And, when we start unleashing these systems in high stakes environments like education, healthcare, and criminal justice, what guardrails, policies, and ethical principles do we need to make sure that we’re not scaling injustice? This is the third episode in our series on the possibilities and costs of living beyond human scale, and it is a must-listen! Please note: In this podcast, Dr. Watkins and Brené talk about how AI is being used across healthcare. One topic discussed is how AI is being used to identify suicidal ideation. If you or a loved one is in immediate danger, please call or text the National Suicide & Crisis Lifeline at 988 (24/7 in the US). If calling 911 or the police in your area, it is important to notify the operator that it is a psychiatric emergency and ask for police officers trained in crisis intervention or trained to assist people experiencing a psychiatric emergency. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:16.7	Hi everyone I'm Brine Brown and this is unlocking us. No I have not started smoking two packs of sigs a day. I've just got like a raspy cough. Let me just tell you, this conversation, not only was my mind blown as I was having it, I loved watching people on my team,
0:27.3	listen to the podcast and look at me and like just make the little mind-blown emoji thing.
0:34.0	This is such a cool and scary and hopeful conversation.
0:40.6	It's just, I don't know that I've ever learned so much in 60 minutes in my career.
0:46.4	So I'm so excited that you're here. This is the third episode in a series that we're doing
0:53.2	that I call living beyond human scale.
0:55.9	What are the possibilities?
0:57.0	What are the cost?
0:57.9	What's the role of community and IRL relationships?
1:01.6	In a world that is like AI, social media, 24-hour news,
1:06.0	we're being bombarded by information
1:11.0	at the same time people are fighting for our attention and will use
1:14.7	any means necessary to get it. It's I don't know about you but I'm I'm tired.
1:20.8	This series is going to be kind of unique in that it's going to cross over between unlocking us and dare to lead.
1:26.0	I'm so glad you're here. So I'm talking to Professor S Craig Watkins, and he just has a gift of walking us into complicated things and making them so straightforward and then asking really
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