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Hello my fresh hellians, welcome to hell. It's fresh hell though so if you want

steal hell you have to go and listen to last week's episode. That's the next one point.

I'm Annie the American and I'm Johanna the Austrian and if this is your first time listening we're both into true crime and we're

modern panpels which means we have never met in person.

Yeah that's right.

We're internet friends.

And of course, the way all of this works

is we take turns choosing topics.

And if we both know it, we'll cover it together

like we did last week with King Tut. But today when I mentioned I really wanted to

cover this case, you said you didn't know it, so I'm here to tell you all about it.

And I'm really looking forward to hear it because I have never heard about it before you even mentioned the name.

I don't know, it wasn't a thing here in Europe or maybe it was in, I don't know, in the UK,

but definitely not in German-speaking countries.

So what kind of case is this? This is definitely a mystery. Today I'm going to tell you about the deaths of Max Shacknai and Rebecca Zahow.

This is the case that I'll tell people about when they ask like, I had asked a lot, like,

why are you so into true crime? Like why is this the thing with you I'll tell them about this case and say you know what do you think and then for weeks they'll be texting me saying what about this and what about that so I promise my friend will I'd cover it I really hope you'll find it as

fascinating as I do I have to say that when I went into researching this case to do our

podcast I really believed one thing, one theory, but once I

finished my research, I don't know, I'm a lot less sure than I once was.

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