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🗓️ 19 March 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet. |
0:03.9 | I'm producer Mia Serenti. |
0:06.7 | For this episode, we're rejoining for part two of our conversation with Earthling Ed on how to argue with a meat eater. |
0:14.2 | Ed joined us recently at the Kielm Theatre in conversation with climate activist Dominique Palmer |
0:19.6 | to share his insights on how we can all become better conversationalists and critical thinkers. |
0:26.0 | If you haven't heard part one, do just jump back an episode and get up to speed. |
0:31.6 | But now it's time to rejoin the conversation with our host, Dominique Palmer. |
0:36.4 | It was really interesting to hear about the arguments |
0:39.4 | in relation to kind of capitalism and climate that you've faced and kind of tackled. I'm really |
0:45.2 | interested to know also what are kind of the top three arguments in general that you have found |
0:53.7 | amongst your research in this book and just generally. |
0:57.3 | Like, what's the research out there saying against veganism? |
1:02.7 | Yeah, well, I think there's a few ways of maybe approaching that question, which is, |
1:07.6 | what do I think at the most sort of prevailing arguments? |
1:10.0 | And also, what do I think is maybe the most legitimate arguments. |
1:12.6 | Let's start with the prevailing ones because the legitimate one is not so interesting really. |
1:17.6 | Well, okay, the legitimate one. |
1:19.6 | If someone cannot be vegan, then they cannot be vegan. |
1:23.6 | And what I mean by that is there are people who are reliant on food banks, |
1:26.6 | there are people in certain areas of the world who do not have the accessibility to plant foods to be vegan. And what I mean by that is there are people who are reliant on food banks, there are people in certain areas of the world who do not have the accessibility to plant foods, |
1:31.3 | to be vegan, then the argument for how they cannot be vegan is sort of made up for them, isn't it? |
1:37.3 | And so in terms of like a legitimate argument against veganism, then that makes sense. |
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