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Kavita Puri and Sathnam Sanghera on War, Empire and the Untold Story of the Bengal Famine (Part One)

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🗓️ 21 March 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

The Bengal Famine is the forgotten story of the Second World War. Between 1943 and 1944, at least three million Indians, all of whom were British subjects, died from starvation or diseases linked to malnutrition. It is one of the darkest chapters in colonial history, yet the memory of those millions who perished is not broadly nurtured in Britain, India or Bangladesh. There is no memorial, museum, or archive dedicated to them anywhere in the world – not even a plaque. Who better to shed light on these untold stories than the award-winning journalist Kavita Puri? Described by The Radio Times as ‘our foremost chronicler of the lives of British South Asians,’ Puri has received critical acclaim for her radio series and writing on Indian history. In March 2025 she joined author Sathnam Sanghera live on stage to uncover this tragic chapter of British and Indian history. Drawing on the themes of her hit podcast Three Million, Puri told the dramatic and complex story of British colonialism, Indian nationalism, global war and the end of empire, while challenging national mythologies, the prevailing British narrative of World War II, and what we understand a hero to be. Puri also discussed the extensive archival research that went into the making of the podcast, and the new discoveries uncovered by forensically piecing together the stories of eyewitnesses and survivors. ------ This is the first instalment of a two-part episode. If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full ad free conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events  ...  Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello Intelligence Squared members. I'm producer Mia Serenti.

0:04.0

Today's members' episode is the full recording of our recent event with Kavita Puri and Satnam Sengara,

0:10.0

discussing war, empire and the untold stories of the Bengal famine.

0:15.0

Kavita Puri is an award-winning journalist, broadcaster and author of the critically acclaimed partition voices,

0:22.0

based on her BBC Radio 4 series by the same name. She's also the creator, writer and presenter

0:27.6

of 3 million on BBC Sounds, which was named a podcast of the year in The Times, Guardian,

0:33.0

and This Week. The series won many awards, including gold for Best New Podcast at the British Podcast Awards

0:39.2

in 2024, and in the same year, Puri was a finalist for the Orwell Prize for journalism.

0:44.9

She was joined in conversation by Satnam Samgara, the award-winning author of Empireland

0:50.2

and Empire World. The Bengal famine is the forgotten story of the Second World War.

0:56.0

Between 1943 and 1944, at least 3 million Indians, all of whom were British subjects, died from starvation or diseases linked to malnutrition.

1:05.0

It is one of the darkest chapters in colonial history.

1:09.0

Yet the memory of those millions who perished is broadly

1:12.4

not known in Britain, India or Bangladesh. There is no memorial, museum, or archive dedicated to them

1:19.6

anywhere in the world, not even a plaque. Drawing on the themes of her hit podcast 3 million,

1:26.3

Kavita spoke to Satnam about uncovering

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this tragic chapter of British and Indian history, tying together a complex story of British

1:33.8

colonialism, Indian nationalism, global war, and the end of empire.

1:38.9

This episode is coming to you in two parts.

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If you want to listen to the live recording in full and ad-free, why not consider

1:45.3

becoming an Intelligence Squared Premium subscriber? You can head to Intelligensquared.com forward slash

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membership to find out more or hit the IQ2X button on Apple. Now let's join our host,

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