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Evidence Based Birth®

EBB 344 - Crash Course in Perinatal Mood Disorders and Treatment with Dr. Kat Kaeni, Perinatal Psychologist and Past Board Chair of Postpartum Support International

Evidence Based Birth®

Rebecca Dekker

Pregnancy, Health & Fitness, Childbirth, Parenting, Birth, Medicine, Kids & Family, Doula, Obstetrician, Midwife

4.6978 Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Rebecca Dekker welcomes Dr. Kat Kaeni, a perinatal mental health certified psychologist, author of The Pregnancy Workbook, and host of the Mom & Mind podcast. Dr. Kat shares her personal journey with postpartum depression, anxiety, and OCD, and how it shaped her commitment to supporting parents during the perinatal period. They explore the spectrum of perinatal mental health conditions, from baby blues to postpartum psychosis, and discuss the stigma, barriers to care, and strategies for managing symptoms. Dr. Kat explains the power of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, mindfulness techniques, and the importance of accessing resources like Postpartum Support International.
 
Content Warning: This episode includes discussions of perinatal mental health disorders, including postpartum depression, anxiety, OCD, and psychosis. Sensitive topics such as intrusive thoughts, stigma, feelings of guilt and shame, and the potential for harm to self or others are addressed. Listener discretion is advised, and we encourage anyone who may be affected by these topics to reach out for support through Postpartum Support International or a trusted healthcare provider.
 
(00:07:28) Unique Challenges in Perinatal Mental Health
(00:11:05) Caregivers' Mental Health and Bonding Challenges
(00:16:32) Parental Isolation Stemming from Anxiety and Depression
(00:21:53) Emergent Postpartum Psychosis Symptoms
(00:27:08) Overcoming Stigma in Perinatal Mental Health
(00:31:54) Thought and Behavior Change Therapy for Depression
(00:36:56) Perinatal Mental Health Challenges and Support
 

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. On today's podcast, we're going to talk with Dr. Kat Kaini about perinatal mental

0:05.5

health disorders, treatment regimens, and resources.

0:12.4

Welcome to the evidence-based birth podcast. My name is Rebecca Decker, and I'm a nurse with my

0:17.7

PhD and the founder of evidence-based birth.

0:26.0

Join me each week as we work together to get evidence-based information into the hands of families and professionals around the world.

0:29.0

As a reminder, this information is not medical advice.

0:32.5

See eBbirth.com slash disclaimer for more details.

0:38.3

Hi, everyone, and welcome to today's episode of the evidence-based birth podcast.

0:43.2

Before I get started, just a reminder that registration to the 2025 EBB conference opens to

0:49.7

the wait list only today.

0:51.7

If you didn't get a chance to get on the wait list yet, but you still want

0:54.8

early access so that you can take advantage of bonuses and exclusive ticket bundles before they sell out,

1:00.4

then go to the waitlist page on eBbirth.com slash waitlist and sign up to get the link to

1:06.8

register sent to your inbox immediately. Also, I am excited to let you know that today's podcast

1:12.2

guest, Dr. Kat, is one of the featured speakers at the conference. You are not going to want to

1:18.3

miss this event in March 2025, where we will journey together through the seasons of birth and

1:24.1

cover the evidence on topics ranging from fertility and pregnancy through labor,

1:28.6

birth, postpartum, and infancy. So again, go to eBbirth.com slash waitlist. If you want to get

1:34.5

started now with early registration for the EBB conference before some of our special ticket options

1:40.1

go away. And now I'd like to introduce our honored expert on today's podcast episode.

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Kathy Yun Kayeni, aka Dr. Kat, has her doctorate in psychology, is a perineatal mental health

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certified psychologist. Dr. Kat is the author of the Pregnancy Workbook, Manage, Anxiety,

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