REPLAY: EBB 262 – Advocacy During Birth and Navigating a Hospital Stay for Newborn Jaundice with Emily Chandler and Taylor Washburn, EBB Childbirth Class Graduates

Evidence Based Birth®

Rebecca Dekker

Pregnancy, Health & Fitness, Childbirth, Parenting, Birth, Medicine, Kids & Family, Doula, Obstetrician, Midwife

4.6 • 978 Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

In today’s episode, we’re revisiting an inspiring birth story featuring Emily Chandler and Taylor Washburn, graduates of the Evidence Based Birth

® Childbirth Class. They share their journey of navigating an informed and empowered hospital birth experience, along with the challenges they faced during an extended hospital stay for their newborn’s jaundice diagnosis.

Emily, a marine scientist, and Taylor, a teacher and rowing coach in the Boston area, enjoy an active lifestyle filled with hiking, biking, and rowing. While preparing for parenthood, Emily immersed herself in learning about pregnancy, birth, and the state of maternity care in the U.S. This journey led them to take the EBB Childbirth Class with instructor Chanté Perryman, where they gained valuable knowledge and advocacy skills.

Emily and Taylor share how the EBB Childbirth Class empowered them to make informed decisions about their birth plan—including Taylor’s memorable experience of “catching” their baby. They also highlight the importance of the advocacy skills they learned, which helped them effectively communicate with healthcare providers and navigate unexpected challenges, such as breastfeeding difficulties and securing the right support during their baby’s jaundice treatment.

Be sure to listen all the way to the end of the episode for an exciting update from our guests!

Content Note: This episode covers topics such as extended hospital stays, breastfeeding challenges, jaundice testing and treatment, and the racial disparities affecting Black and Brown infants with jaundice.

(00:03:15) Doula Guidance During Pregnancy

(00:09:24) Minimal Intervention Birth Plan Worries

(00:17:45) Unexpected Labor Challenges

(00:24:45) Efficient and Caring Nurse's Impact

(00:34:34) Newborn's Breastfeeding and Jaundice Journey

(00:40:03) Newborn Care and Feeding Challenges

(00:43:17) Optimal Umbilical Cord Clamping Timing

(00:47:27) Risk Factors for Infant Jaundice

(00:52:18) Jaundice Warning Signs and Emergency Help

(00:55:57) Home Birth Journey and EBB Impact

Resoures:

Get the Evidence Based Birth® Pocket Guide to Newborn Procedures here
You can learn more about jaundice here at the Mayo Clinic site, or here at the Cleveland Clinic website.
Access the Evidence Based Birth Signature Articles on:

The Evidence on Premature Rupture of Membranes here
The Evidence on Group B Strep here
The Evidence on Pitocin in the Third Stage here

Listen to EBB 145- Fatherhood and Advocacy in Birth with JacMichael Perryman here
Listen to EBB 244 – Evidence on AROM, AVD and Internal Monitoring here
Learn more about Chanté Perryman’s EBB Childbirth Class and services here
Learn more about the Nest Collaborative here

For more information about Evidence Based Birth and a crash course on evidence based care, visit www.ebbirth.com. Follow us on Instagram and YouTube! Ready to learn more? Grab an EBB Podcast Listening Guide or read Dr. Dekker’s book, “Babies Are Not Pizzas: They’re Born, Not Delivered!” If you want to get involved at EBB, join our Professional membership (scholarship options available) and get on the wait list for our EBB Instructor program. Find an EBB Instructor here, and click here to learn more about the EBB Childbirth Class.

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0:00.0	Hi, everyone. On today's podcast, we're going to talk with Emily Chandler and Taylor Washburn
0:05.2	about their informed and empowered birth experience and how they advocated for their baby
0:10.2	while they navigated a hospital stay for newborn jaundice.
0:17.3	Welcome to the evidence-based birth podcast. My name is Rebecca Decker, and I'm a nurse with my PhD and the founder of evidence-based birth.
0:25.8	Join me each week as we work together to get evidence-based information into the hands of families and professionals around the world.
0:33.7	As a reminder, this information is not medical advice. See eBbirth.com slash disclaimer for more details.
0:42.8	Before we get started with today's episode, I have an exciting announcement for you.
0:47.6	This March of 2025, we are bringing birth workers, health care workers, and advocates from around the world together to learn
0:55.4	and build connections in an incredible virtual conference. By attending the evidence-based
1:01.0	birth conference in 2025, you will journey with us through the seasons of birth, covering topics
1:06.7	that span fertility, pregnancy, labor, birth, postpartum, and infancy.
1:11.5	Early bird registration for the conference opens today, Wednesday, January 29.
1:16.6	And if you register by February 12, not only do you get the early bird rate, but you will also
1:21.7	get a bonus exclusive Q&A with Jen Camel of VBAC fax after the conference.
1:27.3	We also have applications open for
1:29.2	equity pricing through February 5. Just go to eBbirth.com slash conference to find more about the
1:35.0	amazing schedule, topics, and speakers. So for today's episode, we have chosen to replay for you
1:41.3	an incredible birth story all about how two of our EBB childbirth class graduates
1:46.2	advocated for their newborn who was diagnosed with jaundice. At the end of this replay, I'll give you
1:51.8	an update on what is going on with our guests now. So make sure you listen all the way to the end to
1:56.6	get the complete story. I also want to give you a heads up that this episode will discuss an
2:01.6	extended hospital stay due to newborn jaundice, difficulties with breastfeeding, testing,
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