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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Ep 1154 | Ex-New Ager Reveals Cults’ Secret Invasion of the Church | Guest: Melissa Dougherty

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Blaze Podcast Network

News, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, News Commentary

4.619.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Today, we're sitting down with apologist and author Melissa Dougherty to discuss her new book, "Happy Lies: How a Movement You (Probably) Never Heard Of Shaped Our Self-Obsessed World," and how the New Thought movement has infiltrated the church. She tells us about her upbringing in New Thought and shares her testimony of how she was born again. She explains the difference between New Age and New Thought and how she escaped her New Age thinking. We talk the prosperity gospel, manifestation, and the word of faith movement and leave no stone unturned when it comes to New Thought ideas. Share the Arrows 2025 is on October 11 in Dallas, Texas! Go to sharethearrows.com for tickets now! Buy Melissa's new book, "Happy Lies: How a Movement You (Probably) Never Heard Of Shaped Our Self-Obsessed World": https://a.co/d/epTs2LH Buy Allie's new book, "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": https://a.co/d/4COtBxy --- Timecodes: (00:45) Melissa Dougherty introduction (07:35) Melissa’s upbringing (14:22) Defining the New Age (18:24) Melissa hearing about the love of God (28:27) What is New Thought?  (39:47) How New Thought teaching appears in churches (46:08) Progressive Christianity and the New Thought (51:09) Melissa’s past gender identity confusion (56:21) Prosperity gospel in the black church (59:17) Takeaways from “Happy Lies”  --- Today's Sponsors: A’del — Try A'del's hand-crafted, artisan, small-batch cosmetics and use promo code ALLIE 25% off your first time purchase at AdelNaturalCosmetics.com Seven Weeks - Experience the best coffee while supporting the pro-life movement with Seven Weeks Coffee; use code ALLIE at https://www.sevenweekscoffee.com to save up to 25% off your first order, plus your free limited edition Lent tote bag. Good Ranchers — Go to GoodRanchers.com and subscribe to any of their boxes (but preferably the Allie Beth Stuckey Box) and get free bacon, ground beef, seed oil free chicken nuggets, or salmon in every order for a year. Plus, you’ll get $40 off when you use my code ALLIE at checkout. Range Leather — highest quality leather, age-old techniques and all backed up with a “forever guarantee." Go to rangeleather.com/allie to receive 15% off. --- Links: Melissa Dougherty's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@MelissaDougherty --- Related Episodes: Ep 1137 | Paula White & 'He Gets Us' Get Jesus Wrong https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1137-paula-white-he-gets-us-get-jesus-wrong/id1359249098?i=1000690933692 Ep 105 | Plans to Prosper? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-105-plans-to-prosper/id1359249098?i=1000436788005 Ep 1122 | New Age Oils & California’s Corrupt History https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1122-new-age-oils-californias-corrupt-history/id1359249098?i=1000683985803 Ep 1058 | Ex-Witch Reveals LA’s Dark World of Sex Cults and Blood Offerings | Guest: Jac Marino Chen https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1058-ex-witch-reveals-las-dark-world-of-sex-cults/id1359249098?i=1000666820850 Ep 1046 | Ex-Psychic on Demonic Possession & Taylor Swift | Guest: Jenn Nizza https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-1046-ex-psychic-on-demonic-possession-taylor-swift/id1359249098?i=1000664520231 ---   Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

From the New Age and Gender Confusion to Freedom in Christ, Melissa Doherty is an apologist,

0:07.0

and she just wrote a book called Happy Lies about how the new age and the new thought have infiltrated the church, what we need to look out for as Christians.

0:16.0

Her testimony from being raised in the world of Christian science and the new thought that surrounds

0:22.5

that ideology. It's just fascinating and super encouraging. You guys are going to love this episode

0:28.2

of Relatable.

0:41.8

Melissa, thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

0:45.1

If you could tell everyone who may not know who you are and what you do.

0:45.5

Sure.

0:46.7

I am Melissa Doherty.

0:50.6

Some people might know me mostly from my YouTube channel.

0:53.3

I'm also on all kinds of different social medias.

0:55.0

But I talk mostly about new age,

1:00.3

new thought. I do some pretty mediocre satire, if I say so myself. But yeah, it's good.

1:07.6

It's okay. But yeah, it's, it's, I just kind of call myself a mixed bag when it comes to touching on different topics. But those are my foretase. Which is why you wrote this book, Happy Lies,

1:12.4

how a movement you probably never heard of shaped our self-obsessed world about new age, new thought,

1:20.1

this kind of movement that's really not new at all.

1:23.8

Before we get into the core of your book, I want to take us back into your life. How did you start

1:31.3

studying the new age? How did you start knowing about it, caring about it, talking about it?

1:36.3

Sure, yeah. So my story is, you know, two, threefold, I suppose. But I grew up in what I thought was a Christian household, but really

1:45.7

it was more intertwined with new thought, but I didn't know that's what it was called at the time.

1:52.2

And what is that?

1:53.1

New thought, which I'll get to. But basically, well, let me define it now. It has more influence

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