Welcome in to another edition of the Under Center podcast here on NBC Sports Chicago.

I'm JJ Stankevich, joined as always by Cam Ellis and Paul Aspen here in our downtown Chicago studios.

We got a lot of stuff to get to today, but first, let's talk about that Bleacher Report article

about the Packers, because, man, there was some stuff. That was fun to read. I mean, especially

sitting here in Chicago. Stuff is a good word for it. There was some stuff. Yeah, if you haven't read it,

Ty Dunn from Bleacher Report is a deep dive. It was really well reported. He got Greg Jennings to go on the record. He got

Ryan Grant to go on the record. Jim Michael Finley. Some guys who you can look at them and say,

well, they might have an ax to grind with the Packers with Aaron Rogers. But it's still rare.

I mean, in today's age, to get that many people to go on the record is pretty good. That's a tough thing to do. There were obviously a lot of anonymous sources,

guys in the front office, all that. But what was the most shocking revelation you guys found in that

article? So we all know Aaron Rogers is a dick, right? Like, that's not news. Like, that's not

news. I watched the season of The Bachelorette with Jordan Rogers, so yes, yes he is.

So that was a news.

Like he takes passive aggressive to the extreme.

I mean, we all know about the stuff that's been reported about his family fall, all that.

So none of that was that surprising.

We'll come back to Aaron in a minute.

So the massage, Mike McCarthy's massage during the team meeting,

that was one of the more salacious details.

Don't know if it's 100% accurate.

Biggest indictment, I think, is that Mike McCarthy quit

and just stopped trying and was like, you know,

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