Eric.

Olvar.

This feels like a homecoming episode, a foundational iron culture episode.

It feels like home to me.

Now, home can potentially be a scary place because we're joined, and I said this before,

I don't want to speak for my man, the co-host, the main

hunk himself, Eric Helms, but they're not my children. I can play favorites when it comes

to guests. And Mike T is one of my favorite guests on Iron Culture. We had to look this up

before we began this episode, and Mike was on a roundtable about periodization with Dr. Zordos, John Kylie, himself.

It was episode four.

It is a foundational episode.

We've been referencing Mike T, as I'm sure you've heard, since that point in time where

Mike gave one of just the best, the best metaphors as it relates to training, having a plan, a program,

what it's like. Eric, to the best of your ability, because it is foundational to Iron Culture,

I want you to catch everyone up to speed. Can you relay essentially what Mike T. said in that

episode and why it really struck to the core of iron culture. For those

that are unaware, let me explain just before, because it's now over five years ago, how I hoodwinked

Eric in order to join me in this podcast initially, was retramatizing him. There was this episode,

you know, we, it's one of the ones where we recounted this, but I'll give a brief synopsis

of what occurred. Hereditary, I knew the film would have been perfect just to traumatize Eric,

showed it to him. He called me at midnight after how to, like, talk it through, like, what's going

on, man, like this thing's heavy. We decided to do the podcast. I said, there's only one way to salvation, and that's bigger biceps. And he said, we're in.

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