I'm Cal Newport and this is Deep Questions, the show about cultivating a deep life in a distracted world.

So I'm here in my deep work, HQ, joined as always by my producer, Jesse. Jesse, uh, Jesse, we got a good show today. We're talking about jobs.

Your job plays clearly a massive role in the day

to day experience of your life but we don't think enough about what that means we're

going to get into it with the deep dive we got some good questions got a

cool case study so it'll be good. We're talking jobs today, but I got to say first, I have a sort of bone to pick with popular culture.

What are we got?

All right, and I think this is important

and it's something that has gone on too long without being talked about.

Do you know this, and Jesse, tell me if this sounds familiar in movies and TV for the last 25 to 30 years

Let's say you're in a scene where either like a government technology agent or a hacker has accessed like a hard drive they

stole from a spy or they're getting access to someone's computer right like

the files right when they access whatever it is, the secret files, they fly open on

their screen one window after another starting to overlap each other.

Do you know what I'm talking about?

Mission Impossible. Like Mission Impossible, like,oboo and all these windows start opening on top of each

other and scrolling. We were just watching last night monarch on Apple TV plus and

they got access to the monarch files and like we we cracked the

encryption

all the windows open up there's often like a dot matrix printer type sound as

if like each one's opening up is making a sound. Here's my question. Who wrote that file program?

Who was it that was sitting around like, hey, I'm working on a program for

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