I'm Cal Newport, and this is Deep Questions, the show about cultivating a deep life in a distracted world.

So I'm here in a distracted world. So I'm hearing my deep work HQ, joined as always by my producer Jesse.

Jesse, I just want to give a quick update to the listeners who submitted their name to you

to potentially participate in the organizational challenge. By the time you're hearing this,

we have reached out to the initial group of people that I'm going to work with. So if you have

not heard back from us, you can assume that you are not selected for that initial group.

However, people might drop out or we might decide to do another group or a larger

group. So you still may hear from us in the future, but just to update you on that challenge right now,

we have reached out to the initial group. I will be talking to them soon. And for all of the

podcast listeners, we're hoping to produce good audio out of this project so you'll be able to

hear the real stories of real people who are

struggling to organize a disordered life and then hear about what I recommend to them and then hear

the after effect of what worked, what didn't. This is all part of my effort to try to make some of

the advice I give here for what we call humanist productivity, make it more real and get away

from the abstract. So stay tuned for that. I'm still deciding, Jesse, whether or not once we

produce that package, if it should be on the main show or if it should be an in-depth episode.

Because real people could fit in-depth as well, so I'm still thinking about that.

Yeah. I guess the one thing I would say is we got a lot of very qualified applicants and, you know,

as a talented pool with like a lot of people who showed a lot of interest, like over like 200.

Yeah.

So, so we had to make a lot of hard choices.

And what we were selecting for in the end is just like the right mix, the right mix of people

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