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Ep. 367 What Does It Mean to Know a Celebrity with Giaae Kwon

The Stacks

Traci Thomas

Literature, Society & Culture, Books, Arts

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

This week, food and culture writer, Giaae Kwon joins us to discuss her debut book, a collection of essays, I'll Love You Forever: Notes from a K-Pop Fan. We talk about what defines K-pop and the aspects of its fandom: from parasocial relationships to the exoticization of K-pop and its "idols."

The Stacks Book Club pick for April is Blessing the Boats: New and Selected Poems 1988–2000 by Lucille Clifton. We will discuss the book on April 30th with Tiana Clark returning as our guest.


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0:00.0

Hey listeners, I'm here to tell you about an exciting event that's happening on Sunday, May 4th.

0:05.0

It is called Stack the Shelves, and it is a special pop-up bookshop that the Stacks is hosting,

0:10.5

dedicated to supporting individuals and families impacted by the recent Los Angeles wildfires.

0:16.1

We're going to have books, author signings, a kid's corner, food, music, lawn games, special guests,

0:23.2

and more. And so now here's the part where I turn to you, the amazing stacks community,

0:28.5

and ask you for help. In order to make this day a smashing success, we need volunteers,

0:34.3

local to Los Angeles. We need your donations, which will be tax deductible

0:38.4

thanks to our partners at L.A. Room and Board, a fantastic nonprofit. 100% of your donations

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will go directly to families, including gift cards to Octavia's bookshelf so they can continue

0:49.3

to build their libraries. And we need your help spreading the word. Head to the stackspodcast.com slash shelves to get all

0:58.4

the details. Again, that is the stackspodcast.com slash shelves. I always kind of thought of my thing with

1:07.6

fandom as being a way of me dealing with loneliness. I did go through very lonely

1:13.5

years where I felt very isolated and I could find some kind of solace and connection in K-pop

1:22.0

fandom. And I know that I do have an obsessive personality. Like, I think that's part of my ADD.

1:27.3

I'll just like fixate on something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's an obsessive personality. Like, I think that's part of my ADD. I'll just, like, fixate on something.

1:29.1

Yeah.

1:29.8

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:30.0

So that's definitely part of it.

1:31.3

Like, I can hook on something and, like, do a really deep dive.

1:34.9

And I think for a lot of people, or for at least some parts of fandom, it does come from this desire to, like, know, you know, obviously in quotes, like, what does it

1:45.5

really mean to know a celebrity?

1:47.3

But this idea that you can have a relationship, even though it's a fake relationship.

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