Unabridged: Remaining Human with Kiese Laymon

The Stacks

Traci Thomas

Literature, Society & Culture, Books, Arts

4.8 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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In this episode of The Stacks Unabridged, we are joined once again by author Kiese Laymon, to discuss his first children’s book, City Summer, Country Summer, and the emotional resonance of sports narratives. We also share how we’re staying human in the midst of so much inhumanity.

You can find everything we discuss on today's show on The Stacks' website:

https://www.thestackspodcast.com/unabridged/2025/4/18/tsu-45-kiese-laymon

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0:00.0	Hey everybody, it's Tracy. Welcome to another episode of the Stacks Unabridged, our bonus episode
0:06.4	exclusive for Patreon and Substack subscribers. Today, because we can, because I love you, and because I
0:16.6	love him, even more, I am joined today by friend of the podcast, Kiehse Laman. KSA has a brand new
0:24.8	children's book. It's called City Summer, Country Summer. He and I talk about that today. But if you
0:30.2	know anything about KSA and I, we talk about a lot, a lot, a lot more. From author's feelings to what the hell do we do to remain human
0:40.5	in this political moment and so much more. If you're listening to this episode and it cuts off
0:45.7	about 15 minutes in, that means you're not a paid subscriber of Patreon or Substack and you
0:51.2	need to join those communities to hear the whole thing. If you go to
0:54.5	Patreon.com slash the stacks to join the stacks pack, for $5 a month, you get access to bonus episodes
1:01.1	to be part of our Discord community, you get our mega reading challenge, monthly book club meetups,
1:06.3	and more. And if you go to Tracy Thomas.substack.com for $5 a month, you get all of my hot takes about books and pop culture.
1:14.5	You get those bonus episodes. And either way you support, you get to know that you make it possible for me to make this podcast every single week.
1:22.7	So go to patreon.com slash the stacks and slash or tracythomas.com to join up and hear this entire
1:33.8	episode. Okay, let's dive favorite person's here.
1:54.5	Every time I ask you, who should I have on the show?
1:57.7	At least 17 of you say you should have KSA back.
2:03.4	So guess what? Get off my back.
2:10.5	KSA is back in the sacks. Welcome back, friend. What up, Tracy? I feel like, you know, back again.
2:15.8	You know, I feel like every time I hear you interview anybody else, I always wish I was in the room with y'all. So thank the 17 people
2:18.7	that want to hear me again. But it's new. I feel like, you know, we're different than we were
2:23.9	the last time we spoke. I think the last time we talked on the podcast would have been like two years.
2:30.0	Well, the last time people heard us talk was the tour. Yeah. But I think it was even three years ago since you were on the podcast.
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