Ep. 555 — McKay Coppins

The Axe Files with David Axelrod

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4.6 • 7.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 November 2023

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Journalist McKay Coppins has been linked to Sen. Mitt Romney since he covered Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign. As a fellow Mormon from Massachusetts, McKay was seen as a “Mormon whisperer” by his fellow reporters on the trail. Now, with the help of dozens of interviews and access to Romney’s journals and emails, McKay has written “Romney: A Reckoning.” He joined David to talk about his new book, the political evolution of Romney and the Republican Party, the omnipresence of Romney’s father in his life and career decisions, political idealism, Donald Trump, and Romney’s sense of legacy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Music
0:06.0	And now from the Institute of Politics at the University of Chicago and CNN Audio, the Axwiles.
0:12.9	With your host, David Axelrod.
0:16.1	I sat down yesterday at the Institute of Politics with McKay Coppins, a national political
0:22.3	writer for the Atlantic, and the author of a fascinating new biography called Bromney,
0:27.6	A Reckoning.
0:28.6	It is a remarkably well-reported account of the life and evolution of Mitt Romney from
0:33.8	one-time Republican presidential nominee to Maverick and GOP apostate in the era of Trump.
0:40.9	Here's that conversation.
0:45.8	McKay, welcome back to the Institute of Politics.
0:49.2	You were a stellar fellow here some years back, and it's good to see you again.
0:55.5	It's great to be back.
0:56.5	I love it here.
0:57.5	Even when it's snowy on November 1st, it's a little early, I think, but it's a little
1:05.2	frosty out there.
1:06.2	It's also, by the way, and we'll get into this, the 15th anniversary of the 2012 election.
1:14.1	You write quite a bit about it in this book, Romney A Reckoning, which was formative in
1:18.9	your own career.
1:21.2	But let's talk about that because folks who are habitual Axwiles listeners can go
1:27.4	back and listen to your full story.
1:31.9	But I just for context, I want you to talk a little bit about it because there are things
1:37.6	that link you to Mitt Romney in a way that you wouldn't necessarily be true with someone
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