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And now from the Institute of Politics at the University of Chicago and CNN

Audio, the Axxwiles, with your host David Axelrod.

Before June 28, 2022, few Americans knew of Cassidy Hutchinson the young former Trump White House

staffer, but that all changed that day. the young former Trump White House staffer.

But that all changed that day

when she appeared as a surprise star witness

at a hastily called televised hearing

of the House Select Committee on January 6th

to share what she knew about the events leading up to

and following the storming of Capitol Hill by a pro-Trump mob.

But her own life story is worth hearing

and compellingly told in her new book enough.

I sat down waiting for this

conversation. So we had a schedule a few times and I'm so glad that we were finally finally able to do it good to see you

You too Dave and I've really been looking forward to this and talking to your little dinner so I

Appreciated your book that when these books are written and I know because I wrote

one myself the fascination of the media is on the sort of news elements of it and by

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