And now from the Institute of Politics at the University of Chicago and CNN audio,

The Axxwiles.

With your host, David Axelrod.

Who better to chat with on July 4th than Doris Kearns Goodwin?

A frequent guest here, Doris is one of the greatest American historians and a joyful

master storyteller. Her books on Lincoln, the Roosevelt's, and Lyndon Johnson are classics.

Now she's turned her lens inward with a new book, an unfinished love story, a personal history of the 1960s.

It's part memoir of her own journey, but mostly it's a riveting account of that inspiring heartbreaking decade.

Through the eyes of her late husband, Richard Goodwin, who has an advisor and speechwriter

to Presidents Kennedy and Johnson, played a big role in shaping events throughout that

momentous decade.

We talked about that in the state of our union and here's our conversation. Doris Kearns Goodwin, it is always such a treat to see you and to be with you so thank you

for being here. There are a lot of reasons I want to talk with you so thank you for being here.

There are a lot of reasons I want to talk to you because this is a momentous time

but you've also just published a book called an unfinished love story, Personal History of the 1960s.

And it reminded me of a visit I made to your house in Concord in 2016,

and you took me in to see your husband Dick who was surrounded by boxes and it turns

out that those boxes and there were 300 of them were like a magic portal to back to the 1960s in which he played such a significant role,

and you've now written a book about.

You guys took a journey through those boxes together,

and now we're taking a journey through that

very, very momentous period of time.

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