It's hardcore history.

A tandem.

So, I am a Dan Jones fan and many of you are too.

No doubt he's one of our finest writers of history for the period in the Middle Ages,

you know, the fall of Rome to the Renaissance.

A lot of stuff that made up what a lot of us grew up with loving.

I mean, nights in shining armor, crusades, Norman Saxons.

I mean, this is pretty par for the course for a lot of history fans.

And if that's your jam, then you need to pick up Dan Jones' new book, Powers and Thrones.

He's with us today to talk about it.

But you've probably already read his stuff.

The Plantagen, it was great.

The Wars of the Roses, Crusaders, the Templars, Magna Carta, the book covers the entire

period from the fall of Rome to the Renaissance in the European Middle Eastern, North African

sort of zone, 656 pages.

I looked it up covering a thousand years.

That's audacious, isn't it?

But just like there's a lot of interesting stuff you can glean from a very narrowly focused,

you know, targeted work on a small chunk of history.

You can really delve into it, turn over every stone, examine it to the end degree.

There are advantages to doing the opposite.

You get much larger sense of how cultures are working together and pinging off each other,

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