It's hardcore history.

Attention.

So my apologies if today's show sounds a little like you're joining a conversation

that's already in progress.

But this has happened with me before where I'll be talking with someone about something

usually over long period of time, messaging back and forth or whatever it might be.

And I'll think to myself usually a little too late in the game, wow, you know, should

have thought about making this a podcast.

More people than just yours truly might want to hear what's being said here.

And that's how today's show got started.

Just an ongoing discussion that at a certain point, you look at it and you go, hmm, well,

I should have started recording a long time ago, but so if it sounds like you're picking

up the conversation in the middle of it, you might be.

I've never been that good in the conversations or the interviews as you probably know if

you've heard me.

I've really like setting it up and starting at ground zero and building from a place

of no knowledge and eventually getting somewhere in the conversation that's interesting.

We just go right to the interesting and I hope we can all, I hope it all makes sense without

having all the background, but that's what today's program will be like.

So I had a conversation that was ongoing about of all things, um, military aircraft, especially

military aircraft in the Second World War.

At times it got very specific, you know, the P 38 American fighter plane in the Second World

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