It's hardcore history.

A tandem.

I've been podcasting since like the Stone Age, 2005, and way back then, and for a long

time afterwards, I kind of considered all the other people who were podcasting as my

colleagues.

We're not really in the sort of industry where you say, yes, my colleagues and we publish

papers or whatever the normal idea of what you might consider a colleague to be, but

it really felt the same, right?

You're struggling through the same things, learning the same things, running into each

other in places, either in person or digitally.

These days, of course, it's a lot harder to call every podcaster your colleague when I think

I saw a number recently that it's north of 500,000 podcasts or something.

But the person I'm about to talk to is undoubtedly my podcast colleague because, well, heck, he's

a history podcaster.

Right there, we're in a pretty, pretty small gene pool and he is one of the great podcasters

ever.

His, the history of Rome podcast is legendary.

In my mind, it sort of makes him the audio, the modern audio equivalent of Edward Gibbon,

where he, he goes like the length and breadth of the entire Roman experience to the fall

of the Western Empire.

It's hugely popular in one of those podcasts that should be in some section of the Hall

of Fame someday.

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